Official 2025 / 2026 Gong Thread

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  1. MrAudio

    MrAudio Ultrasonic

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    Orchestral Tools SINE player, VSL Synchron player and maybe add to them also Spitfire Audio (mostly for the AIR Reverb plugin and one or two great libraries that aren't available in kontakt version) and we will be in audio nirvana. Probably hard disk manufactureres wants VSL:rofl:
    but UAD will be too really appreciated as SoundToys or Pianoteq...the choice is in your hands. For sure we will always be grateful whatever it will be!
     
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  2. glassybrick

    glassybrick Producer

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    No,
    I can't tell you where I got that information from. But it's not from nfo r2r.
     
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  3. Citya007

    Citya007 Newbie

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    maybe vengeance stuff?
     
  4. clone

    clone Audiosexual

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    That was obviously a rhetorical question. It would be extremely easy to get almost any UA installers they want. No-one would have to save up money because there would be nothing additional to buy. There would be no point in a distributed buy; because their prices are so ridiculous when you buy a single plugin compared with a bundle. In that way, UA are even worse than Soundtoys.
     
  5. glassybrick

    glassybrick Producer

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    In fact, many people do not realize how many of the same algorithms are resold from company to company, and how many free plugins are available with the same algorithms.
    We pay for convenience and speed of results. but under the skin the same thing has been the same for 30+ years.

    Many things are patented and still not in mass production (e.g. algorithms for audio restoration).

    Steinberg portico is another example
     
  6. Starpino23

    Starpino23 Noisemaker

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    i'm familiar with R2R false flag detection by Windows Defender and i simply excluded anything R2R like .exe and DLLs from scan but after installing TEAM R2R NETWORK RUNTIME i got a weird scary message from Defender (After recent update)

    Detected: VulnerableDriver:WinNT/Winring0.G
    Details: This program is dangerous and executes commands from an attacker.

    driver: WinRing0x64
    file: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\WinRing0x64.sys

    is that related to this new tool or something else ? should i worry or just ignore?
    I know this is not the right thread to ask but R2R recommends it for future releases so we have to make sure it's safe (i trust R2R but could this leave vulnerability that R2R didn't know about and they may update that tool to fix the issue?).
     
  7. Mechanix604

    Mechanix604 Kapellmeister

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  8. Semarus

    Semarus Producer

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    What's bloated about the Synchron player?
     
  9. Bellaki

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    What if the Pokémons = Ilok, waibu , and the balls = their layer protections.

    We will see something huge and legendary.

    if you remember R2R said,
    (It's time to make the change. For the next revolution!)

    And


    (Patience is a virtue)

    in their Beyound 15000 post.
     
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  10. Faust!ni

    Faust!ni Newbie

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    E você não vai nos contar o que viu?
     
  11. Moogerfooger

    Moogerfooger Audiosexual

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    I’m deleting my account and cursing everyone here if it’s not VSL
     
  12. ArticStorm

    ArticStorm Moderator Staff Member

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    i am really with what i have here ...

    sounds like something ilok related.
     
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  13. shinyzen

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    A source has informed me that Giancarlo and R2R have teamed up, setting aside their differences. The goal? Take down Acustica Audio's competitors. This gong drop will comprise of any and every "analog modeled" plugin to ever have been released. Save your poke balls to donate to Giancarlo's pasta fund.
     
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  14. Synclavier

    Synclavier Audiosexual

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    it's not about the player but their oversampled libraries
     
  15. Semarus

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    LOL! "Oversampled." OK.
     
  16. Synclavier

    Synclavier Audiosexual

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    Well, a hoarder like you is unlikely to understand what I mean.:rofl:
     
  17. Semarus

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    12tb of nvme on board :dunno:
     
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  18. Synclavier

    Synclavier Audiosexual

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    I see you're fully armed and ready for the next Gong wave. :)
     
  19. ItsFine

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    I understand ... i reached my 3TB hdd limit with my Kontakt libs, Falcon ... and COD BO6 :rofl:
     
  20. clone

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    Was it only last year when they had "defeated KONG" , and a few weeks later people still had not figured out they already had whatever release they had been referring to? Other than comment about it never appearing before and all jokes about BigBalls aside, a legendary monster to them could be the Xils5000 vocoder. That plugin v1.0.4 had a very lengthy nfo file, and was possibly the first nfo mention of witches.
    PROTECTiON : FUSiON/iLOK/EDEN/MCFACT

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    HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

    Did you think we would release bigger software? Well, these XILS aren't small
    ones when it comes to the cracking world.

    NONE of iLok protected XILS software has ever been cracked properly. XILS dev
    called Xavier Oudin does some nice combination of EDEN (PACE Crypto) and
    McFACT (eLicenser Crypto). Without the fine decryption, some virtual code
    will not be run by McFACT correctly. It makes small or big (crash!) glitches
    because of this.

    We decrypted all required content to run McFACT correctly, which is always
    done by FusionSDK+iLok, then we bypassed the access to iLok not used anymore.
    This makes working the software identical to the legit licensed software.

    During the test we found some bugs in some software. Anyway, we also
    confirmed that those bugs also happen with legit dongle licensed ones too.
    Not related to the cracking.

    Have nice holidays!


    ----- END LINE FOR NORMAL LEECHERS ---------------------------------------------


    iLOK STATE OF THE ART:

    We are noticed that many people are confused about iLok protection. PACE and
    its iLok has long history, and there are lots of option and integration. We
    think it's better to clarify the difference of them.


    PACE.......... First generation of packer type protection. Some options to
    steal call, hooking INT3 (easily conflicts with other strong
    protections).

    RND1.......... First generation of crypto. Used for content protection like
    UVI Engine, EastWest PLAY, and old XILS targets. Never been
    cracked publicly.

    iLok.......... Well known garbage. PACE.Inc still claims iLok has never been
    tampered and it's true. What crackers tampered is not iLok but
    wrappers. iLok is still safe. So what?

    WrapWarden.... Second generation of packer type protection. Available since
    iLok2 appeared. Has much better compatibility than first PACE
    packer.

    AIR Music (WrapWarden/iLok)
    Eventide (WrapWaden/iLok)
    Audified (WrapWarden/iLok)

    Most iLok protected softwares are packed by WrapWarden. But
    some targets like XILS, GRM, ProTools etc does not use, and
    we think it's enough because they are using some stronger
    technics to avoid being cracked. WrapWarden is not a big
    problem for the cracker who can attack to the stronger
    options or integrations.

    Fusion........ SDK for iLok. It makes developer to access to iLok from their
    software and has some additional functions.

    NuGen Audio (WrapWarden/Fusion/iLok)
    ... Fusion is used for checking custom license.

    Flux (WrapWaden/Fusion/iLok)
    ... WrapWarden does not check the license. Fusion does. This
    is because Flux supports "Flux Dongle" too. If WrapWarden
    checks the license, "Flux Dongle" users cannot load the
    plugin at all.

    Fusion is just a SDK. It is developer who decides how to use.
    Without WrapWarden or MetaFortress, some easy Fusion targets
    are cracked like other normal software.

    Melodyne (Fusion/iLok + Custom)
    ... That's why this is tampered by many crackers. However
    Melodyne has another trick to detect being cracked.

    DrMS v4.0.0 (Fusion/iLok)
    ... It had just a simple iLok check. Being cracked without
    problem. v4.0.1 and later has WrapWarden and MetaFortress
    protection.

    MetaFortress.. Anti tampering technology developed by Metaforic.Inc. Fusion
    SDK supports MetaFortress integration (if developer pays more
    money). File size will increase and app runs much slower than
    unprotected one because of the constant modification check.
    Inserting SEVERAL THOUSANDS code verification to the app. The
    performance is massively affected and some developers even
    mention to this loss.

    Quoting the comment from the developer of Emprical Labs,

    "Empirical Labs has decided to do another short Alpha test of
    our Compressor Plugin starting this week. We have implemented
    Fusion 3 and are already testing things in house, but...
    because the iLok software is so invasive and can drastically
    affect performance, we feel the need to make sure we haven't
    screwed anything up with another short Alpha cycle."

    ProTools (Fusion/MetaFortress/iLok)
    SlateDigital (WrapWarden/Fusion/MetaFortress/iLok)
    Softube (Fusion/MetaFortress/iLok)
    AROUSOR (WrapWarden/Fusion/MetaFortress/iLok)

    MetaFortress is also used to consumer game because it is not
    developed by PACE.Inc. One of the most famous title using MF
    "Kirby's Return to Dreamland" by Nintendo.

    EDEN.......... Second generation of crypto. Used by recent library of UVI,
    EastWest, and other few other big library software.

    Probably you may know, simple license check can be bypassed but you can't
    do that for crypto, just like you can't extract protected zip without correct
    password. In the long history, most integration from PACE.Inc has been
    compromised but crypto has never been done in the past, as you can't find
    any working cracks of UVI or PLAY engine (and XILS till now). Some *users*
    are still requesting UNLOCKED version of them but it won't happen. In theory,
    all libraries need to be processed one by one.


    MCFACT STATE OF THE ART:

    McFACT is a core cryptography of eLicenser. It's not a exe protector or code
    obfuscator like other famous protections.

    We feel it's pretty lame to explain about McFACT because we haven't released
    any real emulators or attacks to this cryptography. We can't complain if we
    will be refuted by the legendary crackers.

    The key of this protection is "run the encrypted code virtually without any
    decryption". If you have experience running bad cracks of eLicenser, you
    would find the constant crash and improper workings. This happens because
    encrypted code wasn't running "as it is".

    In short, this is how McFACT works (not really correct though),
    (EncryptedCode) * (ProductKey) * (ValidLicense) = Code Runs Fine Virtually

    Code runs only when all of required things are fine. We can say McFACT cannot
    be bypassed and needs valid emulation for the working crack. Anyway, sometime
    developers does not use McFACT or use it inefficiently that can be byppased
    or cracked. Those weak protected software runs fine through our inferiror emu
    called "Kawa-eLicenser" :)


    WHY DOES THIS XILS RELEASE WORK?:

    For those iLok-XILS products, McFACT is initialized by the value which is
    decrypted from EDEN powered content. It means McFACT virtual code will be run
    as expected when EDEN content is properly decrypted. The serial number based
    XILS products (SERIAL+McFACT) uses 5 WORD value for McFACT. It is a bit
    different from iLok protected one.


    I SAW THE CRACK OF CUBASE, DOES THIS REALLY WORK?:

    The trick is here,

    ProductA : (EncCodeOfA) * (ProductKeyOfA) * (ValidTrialLicenseOfA)
    | | |
    COPIED COPIED COPIED
    | | |
    ProductB : (EncCodeOfA) * (ProductKeyOfA) * (ValidTrialLicenseOfA)

    In this way, you can run the ProductA's code on ProductB. This works if A & B
    fucntions are completely identical - which rarely happens. Think you are very
    lucky if it works. Anyway, in fact, no further attacks can be done in this
    way. There are no chance to enable Vienna, Nexus, Vengeance or full version
    of Steinberg top notch products.


    Always remember that there are no way to bypass the cryptograhic protection.
    Sometime, even legit license is required. Uploading non cracked version
    does not always help crackers. This isn't a problem only happens to iLok or
    eLic, but some other software does have the same problem as we exactly said
    in the SIR2 release few days ago. Some of the "long waited" softwares are
    never released because of this. Crackers are not wizards or witches :)
     
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