Official 2025 / 2026 Gong Thread

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  1. glassybrick

    glassybrick Producer

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    Many other products who uses same protection was released by R2R, but not this two. btw last sonnox release back in x86 era
     
  2. shinjiya

    shinjiya Rock Star

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    How does it feel to live under a rock? There's 30 or so libraries + Air Studios reverb with their own player/DRM. And that's not even counting the LABS+ subscription.
     
  3. popka

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    Syllogism

    Major premise:
    If a piece of software has already appeared on the scene, then it cannot be classified as "which never showed up before."

    Minor premise:
    Spitfire has already appeared on the scene (releases existed in the past).

    Conclusion:
    Therefore, Spitfire cannot be the "huge legendary monster which never showed up before."

    Additional reasoning (according to Aristotle’s principle of non-contradiction):

    The law of the excluded middle: either Spitfire has appeared, or it has not.
    We know the fact: it has appeared → therefore, the statement "never showed up before" about it is false.
    Consequently, Spitfire does not fall under the definition in the announcement.

    About: Network Block Runtime contains 3 DLLs for both 32bit and 64bit
    R2RHTTP.dll : For WINHTTP.dll
    R2RINET.dll : For WININET.dll
    WS2R2R.dll : For WS2_32.dll

    wininet.dll
    • Purpose: High-level client API for applications aimed at interactive users (browsers, desktop programs).
    • Protocols: HTTP/HTTPS, FTP (and previously Gopher).
    • Features: Built-in caching, cookie management, automatic UI dialogs (e.g., proxy/authentication), integration with Internet Explorer and system user settings.
    • Limitations: Not recommended for services (background/system processes) due to reliance on user settings and possible UI prompts.
    • When to use: Applications with a user interface, where automatic behavior (cookies, cache, user proxy settings) is convenient.
    winhttp.dll
    • Purpose: High-level HTTP(S) API, but service-friendly — designed for server-side/background applications and services.
    • Protocols: HTTP/HTTPS (usually not FTP).
    • Features: Independent of Internet Explorer settings, fewer side effects with UI, supports asynchronous requests, proxy automation, client certificates, more controlled behavior for services.
    • When to use: Background services, server-side clients, headless applications, robust/scripted agent processes.
    ws2_32.dll (Winsock2)
    • Purpose: Low-level network stack — BSD-style sockets for TCP, UDP, raw sockets, etc.
    • Implements: Socket creation, bind/listen/accept, send/recv, select/poll/WSAPoll, IOCP (via extensions), multicast, DNS queries at the API level (getaddrinfo, getnameinfo, etc.).
    • Usage: Any network programming “from scratch” — custom protocols, high-performance network servers/clients, UDP, real-time, custom networking implementations.
    • Limitations: No built-in support for HTTP, TLS, cookies, or FTP — all of this must be implemented/integrated manually.
    All of this maybe just 10% of upcoming R2RSYSTEM
    THIS IS MORE THAN JUST "SPITFIRE"
     
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  4. Lonely_Avatar

    Lonely_Avatar Ultrasonic

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    Why is PT blacklisted?
     
  5. HammerTiMe

    HammerTiMe Producer

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    Everything important about Spitfire Audio (except BBC and Air Studios) has already been released. It's not something new or previously unreleased. The same goes for VSL. And in any case, I don't think R2R wants to get bogged down with 2+TB libraries. R2R cracks protections. In 2020-21 it was Metafortress and Wibu, in 2022 Arxan, in 2023 Acustica, and in 2024 Cryptlex. It could probably be a hard iLok in 2025, especially since that's the only thing left. Maybe UA, who knows.
     
  6. ChrisB

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    ProTools, UAD, Soundtoys, McDSP, Softube (updates and new releases), Slate, and a few others.
    For me, this would be the biggest Gong.:bow:
     
  8. Colrik

    Colrik Ultrasonic

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    Ilok3, because only what is difficult is beautiful... and they are artists.
     
  9. popka

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    R2RSYSTEM vs ilok
    In a few months we will see something incredible
     
  10. Semarus

    Semarus Producer

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    ARO is new actually and several other major libraries are on their Player, so yes, you are misinformed.
     
  11. HammerTiMe

    HammerTiMe Producer

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    "huge legendary monster which never showed up before.":dunno::dunno:
     
  12. Riddim Machine

    Riddim Machine Audiosexual

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    Except for UAD all the other brands have been cracked before.
     
  13. DontKnowJack

    DontKnowJack Platinum Record

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    Which "legendary" plugins are the most likely to have been supplied? My guess is UAD since they have dropped in price and come in bundles.
     
  14. Legotron

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    I can hear the strings from Vienna.. it´s probably synchron player with libs from VSL
     
  15. Gyorgy Ligeti

    Gyorgy Ligeti Rock Star

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    In my opinion, it all lies in the interpretation of the never before. Because technically, only UAD and CEDAR have never known the word warez since their founding. Honestly, it's not easy to decipher the words from the R2R Gods.
     
  16. tori

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    I think it must be UAD, VSL or the Spitfire program. Some people here and an sister site ignore the fact that the new r2r gift wasn't cracked before. So no Pro Tools, McDSP or Sonnox for sure. And brands like Cedar are not huge enough. As an example I never heart about cedar and I know many plugins on the market.
     
  17. popka

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    Wait wait wait.

    When we say “never SHOWED UP before”, what exactly do we mean?

    We've already seen VSL (2021), Sonnox (2012), SSL, PT (2021). So clearly, the software itself has been released before.

    Initially, one might think it was never released by the original R2R group themselves. But in reality, “never showed up” implies that the warez version of this software has never existed on the scene at all. It was never cracked, distributed, or leaked.

    For example:
    • Spitfire Player? That’s just a player, nothing special.
    • UAD? That’s a full vendor package, so “never showed up” would mean no one has ever released a cracked version of it before.
    But then who is Huge Legendery Monster? Spitfire 2007 with Kontakt Player (released) and Sample Libraries (released)? or UAD from 1999 (never showed up before)?
     
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  18. Vacuum

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    R2R likes to wait until everything is released; UAD hasn't yet ported many things to native. Kontakt libraries aren't hacks. Also, VSL releases are VEPs, not major software releases, so R2R might not consider them a decent hack. Most likely Cedar, VSL . Also, UADs are generally cheap. And they would hardly do so many manipulations only for the sake of a few Spitfire products.
    Each company's ilok security is different, so hacking one doesn't mean the others will be hacked.
     
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  19. popka

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    Btw, we got Xils-Lab. Nobody has cracked new synths before, so I’m pretty sure we’ll get VSL7 as a "change" :disco:
     
  20. amintvs

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    "huge legendary monster which never showed up before."

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