Trying to get "Yamaha Expanded Softsynth Plugin for MONTAGE M v3.0.0 - V.R" running in Linux Manjaro

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  1. PulseWave

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    Yes, it really is nice, but I am a fan of acoustic piano's, electric piano's and organ sounds. The demo of the Montage sounds great for these. I already have two Kontakt libraries (Júnior Porciúncula Synthage and Junior Porciuncula - Kollection KEYS - NK STAGE) but these are huge (Kollection is 44Gb!!!) so I was looking for a more compact solution and was hoping to get this thingy working. And I must say that one preset piano sounds really great to my ears!

    So I am still hoping somebody comes up with a bright great for the missing library/libraries for Wine to get the Montage running! :invision:
     
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    I have a Yamaha MX49 (hardware) and it sounds much better than the Roland FA-06 (hardware) and Korg. It's clearer, and the Montage is certainly known for clear sounds with more brilliance than Roland and Korg. I think it's great that you're using Linux! Good luck!
     
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    I first bought a Korg Kross and changed it very rapidly to a Roland FA-06. Not the best sounding, but very versatile sound wise and it is light and small with still 5 octaves. I use it in my band. I travel very light! I have a 10 inch Dell laptop for some extra sounds and it fits in my FA-06 carrying bag. Great! But I always somehow like the Montage better in sound. But in performance the FA-06 is fantastic for seamlessly changing sound-presets which is a fantastic feature only just added in v3 of the Montage!
     
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    I think if you successfully get a VR release working on Linux is it close to Luck. At least R2R do a release with a Linux version included sometimes, and maybe quickly check if it will run in an emulator when they aren't; to see if there is anything they can do to make it working ok in Wine. If you look on VR audio plugins page, not one of them have ever had Linux versions included.
     
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    Thanks, but actually it only worked for 5 played notes. The R2R in that respect did it better.
    I do believe it is possible. Since the plugin shows up and the preset is working, the plugin is properly cured. It is just that one library or a couple of libraries are missing and necessary to change the parameters. If the plugin would not show up or no sound, then that would be a problem. But I keep having the feeling that we're close to get it working if only somebody could detect what what would be necessary to get the changing of the knobs done! :yes:
     
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    Maybe AI can help!
    Installing the Yamaha Expanded Softsynth Plugin (E.S.P.) for MONTAGE M on Linux using Wine is challenging due to limited official support for Linux and potential compatibility issues. Below is a guide based on available information and general practices for running Windows VST plugins on Linux via Wine. Note that success is not guaranteed, as there are reports of difficulties with this specific plugin on Linux.

    Steps to Install Yamaha E.S.P. in Wine on Linux
    1. Ensure You Own a MONTAGE M
      • The E.S.P. plugin is exclusively available to registered MONTAGE M owners and requires a download access code included with the hardware. It is not sold separately.
      • Register your MONTAGE M with Yamaha and update its firmware to at least version 1.22 (preferably 2.0 for full functionality).
    2. System Requirements
      • The E.S.P. plugin is designed for Windows 10/11 (64-bit) or macOS Monterey or later, with VST3 and AU formats supported.
      • Minimum CPU: Intel Core i5 (mid-2017 or later) with AVX2 support or Apple Silicon (not applicable for Linux). 8 GB RAM and 10 GB free storage are required.
      • Linux systems running Wine may need a compatible CPU and sufficient resources to emulate Windows effectively.
    3. Install Wine and Required Dependencies
      • Install the latest stable version of Wine on your Linux distribution (e.g., Manjaro, Ubuntu). For example, on Manjaro:
        bash
        sudo pacman -S wine winetricks


      • Install wine-staging for better compatibility with modern Windows applications:
        bash
        sudo pacman -S wine-staging


      • Use winetricks to install necessary Windows components:
        bash
        winetricks corefonts vcrun2019


        This installs Microsoft Core Fonts and Visual C++ Redistributable 2019, which are often required for VST plugins.
    4. Download the E.S.P. Plugin
      • Obtain the E.S.P. installer from Yamaha’s official website using the download access code provided with your MONTAGE M. Follow the authorization instructions from Yamaha’s site.
      • The installer is typically a Windows executable (.exe). Download version 3.0.0 or the latest available (as of July 2025, v3.0.0 is referenced).
    5. Run the Installer in Wine
      • Configure Wine to emulate a compatible Windows version (e.g., Windows 10):
        bash
        winecfg


        In the Wine configuration window, set the Windows version to Windows 10.
      • Run the E.S.P. installer using Wine:
        bash
        wine path/to/Yamaha_ESP_Installer.exe


        Follow the on-screen instructions to install the plugin. Note the installation directory (e.g., C:\Program Files\VSTPlugins in the Wine environment).
    6. Set Up a DAW with VST3 Support
      • Use a Linux-compatible DAW that supports VST3 plugins, such as Reaper, Ardour, or Bitwig Studio. Ensure the DAW is configured to scan the VST3 plugin directory where E.S.P. was installed (typically ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Common Files/VST3).
      • Some users report issues with VST3 compatibility in Wine. You may need a VST bridge like yabridge to improve compatibility:
        bash
        sudo pacman -S yabridge


        Configure yabridge to point to your VST3 directory:
        bash
        yabridgectl add ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Common Files/VST3
        yabridgectl sync
    7. Install the Yamaha Steinberg USB Driver (Optional)
      • If you plan to connect your MONTAGE M hardware to your Linux system via USB, you’ll need the Yamaha Steinberg USB Driver. However, this driver is only officially supported on Windows and macOS, and there’s no guarantee it will work in Wine.
      • Attempt to install the driver using Wine:
        bash
        wine path/to/Yamaha_Steinberg_USB_Driver.exe


        If the driver fails to work, you may need to rely on the plugin without hardware integration.
    8. Test the Plugin
      • Open your DAW, scan for new plugins, and load E.S.P. as a VST3 instrument.
      • Test a performance (e.g., “CFX + FM EP”). If the plugin loads but doesn’t produce sound, check your DAW’s audio settings and ensure Wine is routing audio correctly (e.g., through PulseAudio or JACK).
      • Note that E.S.P. v3.0 does not support MIDI 2.0, Seamless Sound Switching, individual output settings, or parts 9–16.
    9. Troubleshooting
      • Plugin Fails to Load: Ensure AVX2 CPU support, as it’s required. Older CPUs may cause crashes.
      • High CPU Usage: E.S.P. is noted to be CPU-intensive. Close unnecessary applications and ensure your system meets the minimum requirements.
      • No Sound: Verify audio routing in your DAW and Wine. Install wineasio for better audio support:
        bash
        sudo pacman -S wineasio


      • Crashes or Compatibility Issues: Check forums like AudioSEX for user experiences. One user on Manjaro reported difficulties getting E.S.P. v3.0.0 running, indicating it may be “impossible” without specific tweaks.
      • Steinberg Activation: E.S.P. typically requires Steinberg Activation Manager, but some versions bypass this. If needed, install it via Wine, though compatibility is uncertain.
    10. Alternative Approaches
      • Virtual Machine: If Wine fails, consider running a Windows virtual machine (e.g., using VirtualBox or QEMU) with a licensed Windows installation and your DAW. This ensures compatibility but may impact performance.
      • Dual Boot: Set up a dual-boot Windows system for guaranteed compatibility, though this sacrifices the Linux workflow.
      • Native Linux Plugins: If E.S.P. proves unworkable, explore native Linux VSTs or other softsynths like Arturia Pigments or UVI Falcon as alternatives.
    Important Notes
    • No Official Linux Support: Yamaha does not support E.S.P. on Linux, and Wine compatibility is not guaranteed. User reports suggest significant challenges.
    • Piracy Concerns: Avoid unofficial sources like Team V.R or Team R2R releases, as they may involve cracked versions that bypass licensing, violating Yamaha’s terms. Always use the official download with your access code.
    • Community Support: Check forums like AudioSEX, KVR Audio, or r/synthesizers for Linux-specific tips from users attempting similar setups.
    • Backup Your System: Before installing, back up your Linux system to avoid potential issues with Wine or plugin installation.
    Conclusion
    Running the Yamaha E.S.P. plugin in Wine on Linux is experimental and may not work reliably due to compatibility issues with VST3, Steinberg’s activation system, or the Yamaha Steinberg USB Driver. If you encounter persistent issues, consider using a Windows virtual machine or dual-boot setup. For further assistance, refer to Yamaha’s official installation guide or contact their support.

    If you need help with specific errors or DAW setup, let me know your Linux distribution, DAW, and any error messages!

    Yamaha Montage M | ESP : install Expanded Softsynth Plugin and basic settings (EN subtitles)
     
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2025 at 7:59 AM
  8. paul_audioz

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    :winker:.......if I could only afford a Montage.....

    Aaaahhhhmmmmmmm.......:)

    But thanks for the tip. I had not considered using Chat because of this particular kind of version Chat is mentioning NOT to use. There are indeed one or two things I am going to use and test. I will report back later!
     
  9. PulseWave

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    That's why we have Team R2R or Team V.R., so we can participate in technological progress.
    The software is free, doesn't require maintenance, and doesn't take up any space....
     
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