Any AI thread seems to work like the Behringer gear debate from a few years ago: those who were against it felt the need to constantly repeat their stance with copypaste messages on every audio forum. I remember there were full-time Behringer haters. I'm not exactly sure what purpose that served (other than stirring up drama). In a thread about AI, what’s the point of saying “Fuck AI”? What does that add to the discussion? Maybe the person writing it thinks that after such a statement, AI will just shut down? What's the point of mocking this technology? The worst are the conspiracy theorists: yes, it would be nice if AI hijacked the destiny of humanity, unfortunately it won't happen.
I believe today’s AI haters are the same people who used to hate on Behringer

 

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LOL I feel your pain! My opinion on all this is a great big "meh". It is what it is and it ain't going to be what it ain't. Life is far less stressful if you just are adaptable and go with it. I'm an old fart now and I just don't have the energy to get worked up over things.

 

Or as somebody once said, people don't think it be like it is... but it do.

 

Whatever works for one, we value and take pride in different things about our work and take shortcuts for some other things, ultimately there's reason people dig, pay or listen to that.

 

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You only made this thread because you're proud with your suno songs and to piss of most people in this forum. Am I right?

 

i made it because i was stoked, and wanted to share that. Shared the process in case somebody finds value from it. I'll share examples of before and after as well. I knew it would piss some people off, any AI subject does, but i could care less, and get no joy from pissing anyone off.

 

I'd like to hear these demos

 

I join in, because there are 5 pages of discussion, but no one knows what it's all about

 

I have a close friend that is making songs in Suno "just for fun". She writes some prompts and voila! Suno spits a song.
While the songs sound ok enough to play on spotify or whatever, I have the strong feeling that everything sounds too... boring, predictable, polished and emotionally fake.
Not MY cup of tea, but I am sure lots of people will enjoy and marvel at it, once we have been already used to living in a souless society since some decades already (everything is being made like merchandises for quick thoughtless consumption and shameless self-promotion for likes).

 

A false assumption for sure as I never hated on Behringer...I do however dislike AI.

 

Exactly! I like ai too, but i hate behringer!

 

i will post some. i can't post these specific songs, but i will post some examples of the workflow. ive been slammed with work and life stuff, but I'll get to it soon!

 

A follow up question for a non Suno/Uido user:

So if I write and arrange a song all by myself , -let´s say an accousic guitar song.
all lyrics , arrangment , chords ,vocals written and played by me.

Now I upload this song to Suno/Uido and ask for "some piano" or "sax"
or/and "drums" or "make it in a different Style" and so on.
The chordprogression and lead melody are still the same, also the lyrics.

-Will this "new" song , -now added with Instruments (notes) from Suno/Uido still be
"my song" ? Am I still the legit Composer of that "new" song ?
Do i still have all the Rights , that I had , as I wrote it in the first place ?

 

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That seems to me a legal question and I'm not a lawyer or have any knowledge of what rights are shared by using a corporation to help craft your song, although the sharks that are employed in their legal department would do what they could to reap any reward that they could by any means legally possible. Additionally, "in the first place" means really nothing if something was changed from your original idea and augmented it to a certain degree. Clare Torry who sang that iconic part on The Great Gig In The Sky was paid 30 quid and later sued. In an out of court settlement which was not disclosed, Torry was awarded cash and recieved from that point onward a writing credit on the song...so no, perhaps not all the rights to your own song. The lyrics if you wrote them and if not changed are yours of course.

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Many companies are currently suing Suno; I read that they've already included the legal fees. They should be aware that they're training the AI. A journalist once wrote that you have to steal your music back from AI?! I'm not sure what she meant by that! Be careful what you do with your own music. Do you want to sue? Will the lawsuit be accepted? Who will cover the costs if you lose?

 

Ok . I understand . -from here, it´s gonna get complicated and ugly. So with a bit of luck and good laywers I might
keep my Lyrics , but the rest belongs to someone (something) else. Oh my God

So looking into the Crystal-glass-Bowl , (-into the future) , it might be a good idea to save your own handmade tracks (all the tracks that in the end makes up a stereotrack/song ), -all the panning , -levels, -fx´s , -Eq´s , -raw tracks a.s.o ... with timestamp and deposit it at a lawsuit accepted place .... so that a Judge /and an independend expert ,can confirm that the "song xy" clearly has its origin from you !? . Just in case?

 

Spoiler: Source: ChatGPT KI

Protecting your music from misuse by AI and handling potential legal issues (like being sued) both involve a mix of legal strategies and technological measures. Here's how you can go about it:
1. Protecting Your Music from AI Misuse
AI is capable of generating or remixing music based on data it is trained on, and this raises concerns about misuse—especially if your music is used without your consent. Here's how you can protect your work:

A. Legal Protection:

• Copyright Registration: In many countries, your music is automatically protected by copyright as soon as it's created and fixed in a tangible form (e.g., recorded or written down). However, registering your work with a relevant authority (like the U.S. Copyright Office or the UK's Intellectual Property Office) gives you stronger legal backing if you need to enforce your rights.
  
  
• Digital Rights Management (DRM): Implement DRM systems, especially for digital distribution, that prevent unauthorized copying, modification, or distribution of your music.
  

B. Technical Protection:

• Digital Watermarking: This involves embedding a hidden identifier in the audio or metadata of your music that proves you are the original creator. Even if AI generates new versions based on your music, a watermark could help identify the original source.
  
  
• Use Licensing and Terms of Service:
  
  • If you're uploading your music to platforms that utilize AI (for training or any other purpose), read and understand their terms of service. Some platforms might require you to give up certain rights (such as allowing them to use your music in their AI models). Ensure that you don't unwittingly give away the rights to your music.
    
    
  • You can include clauses in licensing agreements that restrict AI usage or reproduction of your work in machine learning models.
    

C. Monitor and Detect AI Use:

• AI Music Detectors: There are tools that help detect AI-generated music or music that closely resembles yours. By using these tools, you can track down unauthorized use of your work and take action.
  
  
• Monitor Online Platforms: Regularly search for your music on streaming platforms and social media to ensure it isn't being used improperly.
  

2. Protecting Your Music if You Are Sued
If someone sues you for copyright infringement, or if you're accused of using someone else’s music without permission, here's how to protect yourself:

A. Keep Proof of Creation:

• Version Control: Save all drafts, recordings, and versions of your music, especially if you have made significant changes or improvements. This can serve as proof that you created the music.
  
  
• Time-Stamped Evidence: Use services like cloud storage that provide time stamps to show when your music was created. Some platforms, like blockchain, offer solutions that permanently record the creation date of your work.
  

B. Secure Licensing and Contracts:

• If you’ve used samples, collaborations, or hired others to work on your music, ensure you have written contracts and licensing agreements that clarify ownership and usage rights. This can help avoid claims from collaborators or sample owners.
  
  
• Music Publishing Agreements: If you sign up for a publishing deal or work with a label, carefully review the terms. A contract should specify how your rights are managed, how royalties are paid, and who owns the rights to the music.
  

C. Use Copyright Protection Services:

• Music Publishing Services: Many artists use services like ASCAP, BMI, or PRS for Music to manage their copyright and royalties. These services can help protect your music by tracking its use across various platforms and ensuring you're compensated when it's played or used.
  
  
• Copyright Infringement Notifications: If someone is using your music without permission, services like YouTube’s Content ID system or social media platforms can help you file a takedown request. If necessary, you can also issue formal cease-and-desist orders.
  

D. In the Event of a Lawsuit:

• Hire a Copyright Lawyer: If you’re being sued, having a specialized attorney is crucial. They can guide you through the process, help you assess the strength of the lawsuit, and advise you on how to respond.
  
  
• Claim Fair Use (if applicable): If you’re using someone else’s music and are accused of infringement, you can argue that your use falls under the "fair use" doctrine. However, this can be complex, and you’ll need legal advice.
  
  
• Counter-claim: If someone is wrongfully suing you for infringement, you might be able to file a counter-claim if you have valid reasons (such as proving that their music is infringing upon yours).
  

E. Evidence for Legal Defense:

• Digital Footprint: Maintain records of all communication, contracts, and work processes. Having a clear record of when and how your music was created, and whether it was independently created or involved other people’s contributions, is vital.
  
  
• Contractual Agreements: Always have written agreements for collaborations, sample use, and licensing. These documents are essential if a dispute arises over ownership or rights.
  

Summary:

1. For AI Misuse: Protect your music through legal measures (copyright registration, licensing agreements) and technological tools (digital watermarking, AI usage clauses).
   
   
2. For Legal Protection if Sued: Document your creation process, secure contracts with collaborators, and use services like music publishing to track usage and royalties. If sued, seek legal representation and ensure you have all relevant proof of ownership and use rights.
   

If you're worried about AI or legal issues surrounding your music, it’s also a good idea to stay informed about the latest laws and technologies, as this field is rapidly evolving. Do you have any specific concerns or are you in a situation where you’re dealing with one of these issues?

 

Believe it or not, i first heard some music created with ai.. I hope the internet dies soon!
PS. Since i was a kid i always hated the behringer logo, i hate that ear.. But i don't know why!
PPS. Damn, i just had a Vietnam/Magnum P.I. style flashback.. As a kid i had a "used 10€" purple behringer distortion pedal that i hated.. My friend had that boss, and that made my hatred worse.. Sorry for the useless OT..

 

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Thanks PulseWave , explains a lot ,and makes it even more complicated