Trust Issues with Presonus/Fender Studio One

Discussion in 'Studio One' started by blinkitspenguin, Jun 8, 2025 at 7:13 AM.

  1. blinkitspenguin

    blinkitspenguin Member

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    Last Year, On October 9 they've released Studio One 7.0 & announced that they will release 3-4 major updates every year while introducing their subscription plans.

    It's already June. 8 Months passed and So far they've only released 2 minor updates, Nothing major. Still no issues but the last 3 iterations from 7.0 to 7.2 all these versions have so many bugs.

    For a Professional Software, They are running the studio one with bugs for 8 months now. Updates & Bug Fixes are slow af.

    Recently Fender introduced the free Fender Studio App developed by the Team Studio One. Apparently, Fender used the Presonus Team to build it's own app

    Do you guys think that presonus/fender is still trustable? or fender is killing their business slowly...

    I really like Studio One, using it for 6 years as it was my first DAW but recently i'm really having trust issues with presonus. I fear fender would totally kill studio one.

    What you guys think? It's tragic if something happens to studio one in the future as i am fully dependent on it and all my projects are studio one only.

    Other Big DAWS in the market are quite stable i.e. Pro Tools, Ableton, Logic Pro, Cubase, etc.

    Thing is fender have a history of ruining businesses.

    Are you guys going to keep working in Studio One? Or you guys too are thinking to switch?
     
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  3. clone

    clone Audiosexual

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    Let's say Presonus are put out of business tomorrow. What happens then?
     
  4. shinjiya

    shinjiya Platinum Record

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    I don't agree with half of the current Studio One business model, but we need to be realists here: what is happening with Studio One is not exclusive to it, and is just a reflection of the industry. Every DAW suffers from this in different places and scales. Right now, I think Studio One is one of the lesser evils in the industry. It's a good DAW, and my experience with it is pretty much bug-free, save one case or the other, but it doesn't amount to maybe a few hours of all the 12 years I have been using it. I agree that updates have been extremely slow, but my prediction of the current business model was spot on. For me, I can go back to Reaper at any time, so maybe you should consider planning to move elsewhere, or stick with an older version of the DAW that works best for you.
     
  5. ItsFine

    ItsFine Rock Star

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    I don't trust Fender (like i don't trust Gibson).
    Remember when Yamaha bought Steinberg ... they are still there :wink:
     
  6. PulseWave

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    Hello @blinkitspenguin, Studio One is stable; bugs are fixed with every free update. I have complete confidence in Studio One. You don't need to worry about Studio One being sold or discontinued. Just don't read so many reports; they'll only reinforce your fears.

    Fender has a competitive problem; others can also build guitars and do so at cheaper prices. But Fender has patents and extensive expertise. They will have to adapt to the market or they'll disappear from the market.

    Fender Acquires Recording Giant PreSonus - November 2, 2021!
    Jim Odom says PreSonus has found the "right partner to support the company's continued growth."
    Joining forces is sometimes necessary and sometimes beneficial.

    The global digital audio workstation market was valued at $2.95 billion in 2023 and is expected to grow from $3.21 billion in 2024 to $6.34 billion in 2032, a compound annual growth rate of 8.9% during the forecast period. The US digital audio workstation market is expected to grow significantly, reaching an estimated value of $1.51 billion by 2032, driven by the growing popularity of podcasts among listeners.

    List of profiled key companies:

    Apple Inc. (USA)
    Avid Technology, Inc. (USA)
    Yamaha Corporation (Japan)
    Adobe (USA)
    Ableton (Germany)
    Bitwig GmbH (Germany)
    BandLab Technologies (Singapore)
    Dirac Research AB (Sweden)
    PreSonus Audio Electronics, Inc. (USA)
    Native Instruments GmbH (Germany)
    Source: /www.fortunebusinessinsights.com/industry-reports/digital-audio-workstations-market-100150
     
  7. clone

    clone Audiosexual

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    as long as there is a k'd version of whatever you are using available, you will be able to get into your old projects as long as your other tech allows. If they pull the product off the market for any reason and you have access to a version where there is no online authentication method, you will be able to open old sessions. This is every DAW.

    So what do you have to trust them with? If they are making users pay for updates with promised fixes that never materialize, that is possibly an issue that might waste a little money. People sometimes seem to feel like they are "investing" into something, but all that you are paying for is whatever is there at that specific minute. It shouldn't be, but that's outside of your control.
     
  8. washlim

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    I don't trust S1 since their cloud thing.
    I don't like how it evolves either - if I can call that evoles... outdated GUI plugins, useless low quality instruments and "fetaure", GUI becoming clubky. I still like but I don't trust for the future myself.
    yamaha i think they really wanted do something in audio software,
    fender I don't see them doing anything (and they don't, probably just a financial thing for them and the previous owner get rid of it and be a rich retired man)
    my opinion. and opinions are like asshole, they stink
     
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  9. blinkitspenguin

    blinkitspenguin Member

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    Thank You guys for explanation! I think I am feeling a bit relieved for now :)
     
  10. blinkitspenguin

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    While every daw has it's pros & cons. for now with studio one my only problem is TRUST on the Company & S1's Audio Engine. That Audio engine performs too bad in lowest latency settings, I thought it's only true for S1 Windows Users but it's also true for Mac Users.

    In S1, if you want lowest latency, then these are the settings

    Sample Buffer = 16 Samples
    Dropout Protection = OFF

    (Reason to set this to off is if you set it higher than off lets say minimum, it adds latency.)

    In this settings, if you compare ableton or logic they perform smoothly in their lowest latency settings even in heavy load like multiple instances of Omnisphere. But S1 easily starts to give clicks & pops like after just 1-2 Omnisphere. On the other hand ableton & others perform well with 8-10 instances of Omnisphere in similar lowest latency settings.

    I've replicated this test on my old windows laptop & my new M4 Mac Mini. It performs worse in both systems compared to other Big DAWs like Ableton, Logic Pro, Cubase, Reaper.

    Idk why S1 performs like this. Have you guys compared this lowest latency setting of S1 to other DAWS?
     
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  11. PulseWave

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    By the way, two Studio One developers used to work at Steinberg Cubase.
    I did some more comparisons, but I hadn't thought of that. I have an Audient iD14 USB interface with 256 samples!

    What kind of CPU, RAM, and audio interface do you have?

    Try setting up your PC properly:

    PreSonus - Optimizing Your Computer for Audio - Windows 10
    https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-...Optimizing-Your-Computer-for-Audio-Windows-10

    Optimizing Your Computer for Audio - Windows 11
    https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-...Optimizing-Your-Computer-for-Audio-Windows-11

    Don't let audio glitches ruin your performances! www.cantabilesoftware.com/glitchfree/
     
  12. blinkitspenguin

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    Previously, I had a Dell XPS 15 9570 Laptop i7 8750H Intel Chip, 16 GB RAM

    I replaced that with a new M4 Mac Mini Base Model with 16 GB Ram & 512 SSD.
    My Audio Interface is Scarlett Solo 3rd Gen. It can go as low as 16 Samples in S1 & 32 Samples in Ableton.

    I've tried all the tips & tricks that you mentioned above, nothing fixed those issues on

    Have tried this? Are you able to replicate this low latency S1 setting wih ableton or logic's lowest latency settings?
     
  13. PulseWave

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    For the best performance in Ableton Live, it’s helpful to make some adjustments to Windows settings, as explained in this guide. Taking the time to set up your Windows PC according to these tips will greatly reduce the chance of crashes and audio interruptions.

    Buffer Size

    We recommend using a buffer size of one of the following: 128, 256, 512 or 1024 samples.
    It's possible to set the Buffer size in Live's Settings → Audio. However, depending on your interface, you might need to click on Hardware Settings to make the adjustment in the audio interface preferences.
    Note: If the controls are greyed out in Live, this setting can only be changed in the interface's Control Panel, following these steps: Changing the buffer size/sample rate of an ASIO Audio Interface.

    https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/209071469-Optimizing-Windows-for-Audio

    Reducing the CPU load on macOS
    https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/5266527910812-Reducing-the-CPU-load-on-macOS

    Focusrire -. Optimising macOS for Audio
    https://support.focusrite.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207546515-Optimising-macOS-for-Audio
     
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    daddy chill
     
  15. BiG Pluck

    BiG Pluck Producer

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    I'll be repine Studio One until it dies. I've already been through the Gibson Opcode takeover the killed Studio Vision Pro back in the 90s. And it was quick & swift. Like a team of mercenaries had stormed the building grabbing certain key members with chloroform quietly in the middle of the night. Then suddenly on morning our problems we from shit to the shitter all in one night.
    So Fender is hanger in there with Studio One & I seriously believe they're trying.
    However as long as Apple is alive and they still produce Logic, just as I went to Logic after Opcode died with Studio Vision Pro, I'l be going back to Logic upon the death of Studio One. BUT.... Studio One is still breathing strong. So what they haven't released any major updates in the past 8 months. Companies are struggling like hell just to stay afloat.
    So I say to Fender, keep chuggin' along my friend. And continue to do, that voodoo, that you do, so well!
     
  16. voidSeeker

    voidSeeker Kapellmeister

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    For what it's worth, I went back to Cubase...
     
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