Why old analog synth and some new are noised (?)

Discussion in 'Working with Sound' started by r3neg8, May 14, 2025 at 8:10 PM.

  1. jhagen

    jhagen Platinum Record

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    good.
    if you have time can you post few sec of the tr707 and juno, same audio card input level of the tb303 ending with few secs of silence?
    did you try to record your 303 from headphone output? (to test if the noise change shape)

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  2. Readdy

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    lolololol "warmth" the more ppl get into analog, they're like hell no to much noise LMAO!!!!
     
  3. bluerover

    bluerover Audiosexual

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    hmmm...that's interesting. My K2VXS is pretty quiet.
     
  4. r3neg8

    r3neg8 Noisemaker

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    Hi bro!
    Can't use the headphone output (low volume)
    Now i can't i promise you this week i will record it.

    Also for now i am trying to flow with the Analog "SHHHSXSHSHXSHXHHHS" (sound AHAH :D)
    I try to layer drums and other things, just by using a normal drum pattern the noise becomes less noticeble, gives a particular character whatever...

    Also a vynil (cracling ecc..) noise is ALWAYS perfect to mask anything

    I heard someone elses' tb303, has the same audio noise. So its like the synth is like that.
     
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  5. PulseWave

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    Many Roland TB-3030 users also complain about the noise. I think Roland used cheap parts or the circuit design isn't professional. My "Korg - Electribe EMX-1 SD" was superbly manufactured and sounded great, but it had a very loud noise. Your power supply noise, dear Korg manufacturers, isn't so great.
     
  6. r3neg8

    r3neg8 Noisemaker

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    yep, but i use batteries,x4
    to avoid connecting adapter
     
  7. Lynn35

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    Is your device connected somewhere via usb by any chance? I've found using usb ports insert a lot of noise in analog, best to use 5 pin midi instead
     
  8. PulseWave

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    Don't you have a USB mixer or a mixer with firewire?
     
  9. r3neg8

    r3neg8 Noisemaker

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    I use an Audient id14 mkII, has usb-c to connect the pc

    xrl input.
     
  10. PulseWave

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    I have the same audio interface as you!

    Connecting to external instruments and devices

    The TB-03 is equipped with MIDI IN/OUT jacks and a USB port, allowing the exchange of control data with other devices. This makes the TB-03 a flexible controller, especially since the CV/Gate output can be used to control external analog devices and modular synthesizers. Thanks to the trigger input, which provides access to the TB-03's internal sequencer, this form of control works in both directions. When connected to a PC or Mac, MIDI commands and digital audio signals can be transmitted simultaneously via the USB port.


    I would connect it to the PC via a USB cable and then register it as a device in the DAW. Leave the AudientII out!

    The TB-03 can send and receive MIDI control information through its MIDI ports and USB connection, making it easy to integrate with other hardware instruments and computer-based DAWs. When connected to a PC or Mac, both MIDI commands and digital audio signals can be transmitted simultaneously via the USB port

    Roland TB-03 (Boutique Series)

    USB Connection:
    The TB-03 connects to the PC with a USB 2.0 cable (Micro-B). MIDI and audio data are also transferred here.

    A special Roland USB driver is required.

    The TB-03 registers itself as an audio and MIDI interface on the PC.
    Power is also supplied via USB or batteries.

    Step-by-Step Instructions (TB-3/TB-03)
    Download the USB Driver
    Download and install the appropriate USB driver for your device and operating system from the Roland support site.

    Connecting the Device via USB
    Connect the TB-3 or TB-03 to the PC with a suitable USB 2.0 cable.

    TB-03 Driver Ver.1.0.1 for Windows 10/11
    https://www.roland.com/de/support/by_product/tb-03/updates_drivers/
     
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  11. r3neg8

    r3neg8 Noisemaker

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    I have a TB-303, works for that?
    i donot think so..
     
  12. PulseWave

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    First of all, sorry for the mix-up!

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    TB-OUT Mono 6,3 --> Audient MKII ---> Stereo jack 6.3 mm > 2x mono jack 6.3 mm

    Connect the cable to the Audient Line 1 Line 2!

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    https://www.thomann.de/de/the_sssnake_ypp2230.htm

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  13. r3neg8

    r3neg8 Noisemaker

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    I am sorry i don't undersand. whats the problem with:
    TB-OUT Jack 6,3 -> (Xlr line1 input) Audient MKII -> Pc


    Also i didn't understand what connections are you telling me.
    Why using a Jack to x2Jack (it's left and right?)
    Where i get the connection to the pc? whats the benefits?
     
  14. PulseWave

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    You only have one output jack on the Roland machine, from which the sound comes.
    The sound goes through two mono jack jacks into your Audient as Line 1 and Line 2, so you have stereo and not mono.

    You program your TB-303, and the finished sound then goes out as audio.
    Your TB-303 is very old and doesn't have today's standard connections.
    Your DAW shows you Channel 1 and Channel 2 - you can set this in the Audient software.
     
  15. r3neg8

    r3neg8 Noisemaker

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    I searched, my friend, the tb303 is a mono signal. doesn't have stereo.
    so if i use a splitter like that, i'll just achive a two mono signal...
     
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  16. PulseWave

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    Yes, pseudo-stereo, but 2 channels! Would you like to connect that? Which DAW are you using?
    On channels 1 and 2 or just mono 1 you then use the Gate FX to eliminate the background noise.
     
  17. r3neg8

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    mm naha bad idea
    :/
    thanks, very kind.
    i don't like gate.
     
  18. saccamano

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    If you have access to truly BALANCED output/inputs on your analog devices then make use of those over any unbalanced I/O. If the noise is being incurred by external means (i.e. radiating into cables and the like) the nature of common mode rejection inherent to all BALANCED connections should remove that kind of noise almost entirely. If the source of the noise is internal device circuit noise then all you can do at that point is to somehow separate it from the program audio and filter it somehow, or gate the signal when no program audio is being generated.
     
  19. PulseWave

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    Waves - Z-Noise (Save Tracks with Music-Oriented Noise Reduction) www.waves.com/plugins/z-noise

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    The Roland TB-303 only has one unbalanced output!
     
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