Avez-vous des idées sur ce que je peux améliorer ?

 

No, I do not think that anyone can make anything better here anymore.

 

Why??

 

too much reverb for my taste

 

Sounds good. The riff sounds great. I'm a beginner with mixing so others here can tell you better.
To me it sounds like it has too much reverb. Also some eq to be done. Some sounds overshadow the guitar.

Don't mind him, he's a sore soul

 

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I like the arrangement, quite effective. Just add a limiter to push few db more and it's done.

 

Yeah, I must concur, good riff but no low end (is there even a bass guitar in there?) and the whole thing sounds like a band sound checking at a big empty arena while you're outside.

 

J'ai donc utilisé la réverbération uniquement sur la caisse claire.
À la guitare, j'ai appliqué le chorus, ce qui explique peut-être pourquoi on a l'impression qu'il y a beaucoup de révérence.
C'est un choix artistique concernant les effets

 

Bass vi for rhythm guitar and true bass

 

I put Ozone 11 on the master, and a limiter, should I increase it?

 

chorus effect on rythm guitars? not a good idea.

 

At the end of the day, if you like the way it sounds then go for it. I was never really a fan of the production of, say, the Cocteau Twins; to my ears that was "wrong" but a lot of people love it. We're just giving you opinions based on our interpretation of what would be typical for that genre.

 

Type O Negativ ??

 

I was asking for an opinion on the mix, not on the artistic direction.

 

Def too much reverb. Sounds like the drums are played in a cave. Muddies the guitar a bit. Almost feels like there's a phaser going on.

But remember if it sounds good to you, go for it!

And if you're gonna add vocals over, it's gonna change the mix of course, would be interesting.

 

You're asking for opinions but I think what you really want is affirmation. I've tried to be diplomatic... anyway, good luck.

 

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It was ironic, no need more limiting, it sounds actually over limited to me. About the arrangement is impossible to get an opinion with just few secs. Stereo field (side) is wrong too. It need to be mixed again, good luck.

This.

 

No bass, drums drown in reverb, guitars are swimming, too. Then over-compressed/-limited, which brings up the reverb even more?
So, at this state, there is not much that can be of help. I would try to turn the reverb fully down, see what the best result sounds like, and then softly dial in some of the reverb again, if this is what you artistically wanted.
Right now, the mix is really muddy to my ears, hard to tell more.
Best regards.

 

You added so much reverb to it and turned into molten metal.

 

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Hello,
Maybe 128 kbps is a bit too low quality for technical listening.
I agree with the posters here who said there's too much reverb on the snare, and that the mix is too loud/squashed. There's a lot of pumping.
You dont need to be around -4.7 LUFS to sound 'massive' and 'dense'. -8 / -7 is often enough (and sometimes already too much). Going louder often brings a feeling of 'deformed' sound or 'pressed in a too small box'.

Attack of the bass drum feels distorted, which can be caused by the low bitrate mp3.
Reverb on the snare drum has something wrong, like the decay time doesnt match the space brought by early refs. Plus it tends to drown other instruments. It is probably pushed forward by the limiting and is too wide.
Chorus on guitars is cool and brings a post-punk feel but maybe adds a sense of space which is not coherent with the one brought by the snare reverb.
Bass guitar is audible but lacks definition and presence in the mid range.
Cymbals are too compressed and bring some kind of a (not very pretty) shimmer which probably plays a part in the distant / drown in reverb overall sound.

My advice is to rework the mix with less effects - at least at the beginning - and try to make the instruments more defined, especially bass guitar and drums.

And do not compress / limit this much, it just make your work more difficult and brings nothing.
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Salut,
peut-être que 128 kbps est insuffisant pour une écoute technique.
Je suis d'accord avec les posteurs qui ont dit qu'il y a trop de reverb sur la caisse claire et que le mix est trop poussé en niveau / applati. Ca pompe beaucoup.
Il n'est pas utile de pousser jusqu'à -4,7 LUFS pour sonner "massif" et "dense". -8 /-7 est souvent très suffisant (et parfois déjà bien trop). Pousser le niveau donne souvent une impression de son "tordu" ou "tassé dans une boîte trop petite".

L'attaque de grosse caisse sonne distordue, ce qui vient peut-être du mp3 bas débit.
Quelque chose ne va pas avec la reverb de la CC, comme si le temps de déclin et l'espace décrit par les premières réflexions ne collaient pas ensemble. De plus, elle tend à noyer les autres instruments. Elle est probablement poussée en avant par le limiteur et rend trop large.
Le chorus sur les guitares est sympa et donne un feeling post-punk mais ajoute peut-être une sensation d'espace incohérente avec celle apportée par la reverb de la CC.
La basse est audible mais manque de netteté et de présence dans les mediums.
Les cymbales sont surcompressées et apportent une sorte de scintillement (pas très joli) qui joue probablement un rôle dans l'effet général de distant / noyé dans la reverb.

Mon conseil est de retravailler le mix avec moins d'effets - au moins au départ - et d'essayer de rendre les instruments mieux définis, en particulier la basse et les percussions.

Et ne compresse / limite pas à ce point, ça ne fait que te compliquer le travail et n'apporte rien de bon.