A sad day for Spitfire Audio

Discussion in 'Industry News' started by Pavel Kica, Apr 28, 2025.

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  1. hed0rah

    hed0rah Ultrasonic

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    Certain labs even allowed Disting EX (eurorack module) to convert their stuff to multisamples
    https://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/distingEX.html

    I always assumed they were easy to use offline/convert etc. sucks to hear
     
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  2. slowpoke

    slowpoke Kapellmeister

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    Damn, i'll have to learn the orchestra now.
     
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    Splice x Spitfire Audio
    2 days ago Updated
    1. What’s happening between Splice and Spitfire Audio?

    Spitfire Audio (including LABS) has been acquired by Splice. This partnership brings together two industry leaders with a shared mission: to empower music creators with the best tools, sounds, and technology to realise their full creative potential.


    2. Will Spitfire Audio go away or become “Splice”?
    Not at all. Spitfire Audio will continue to operate under its own name, brand, and distinct product experience, remaining dedicated to crafting world-class instruments and iconic soundscapes. We'll be working on future products that combine the best of both platforms.



    3. What does this mean for Spitfire Audio users?
    Rest assured that nothing will change to our beloved sample libraries or LABS (both free packs accessible to all, and paid packs via LABS+) and we will continue to release new products at the high quality you’ve come to love and expect.



    4. Will I still be able to use my Spitfire Audio Libraries and will you continue to update them?
    Yes. Spitfire Audio will continue to develop its rich portfolio of products and update its existing legacy libraries, so that you can continue to enjoy all your Spitfire Audio products.



    5. Will there be any changes to perpetual licenses?
    There will be no changes, your licenses are unaffected.



    6. What about pricing, will anything change?
    No immediate changes are planned. Both companies will continue to develop new products and pricing models, and we’ll always communicate any updates in advance.



    7. Will my Spitfire Audio login now work on Splice? Or vice versa?
    For now, logins for Spitfire Audio and Splice remain separate. We’ll share updates as that changes in the future.



    8. Will Spitfire Audio products be available through Splice?
    We’re actively exploring ways to bring Spitfire Audio’s legendary virtual instruments to the Splice platform - we will share more soon.



    9. Will LABS or LABS+ change for me?
    You’ll continue to use Spitfire Audio, LABS, and LABS+ as you always have. LABS free packs will continue to be available to all. Our premium packs will continue to be available via LABS+ subscription and we will continue to launch 2 premium packs a month. Behind the scenes, we’re working on new ideas that will benefit both communities.



    10. What does this mean for the future of music creation?
    This partnership marks a new era. Together, Spitfire Audio and Splice will create the most complete and forward-thinking toolkit for modern music makers—whether you’re discovering a loop, crafting a score, or pushing boundaries with ethical AI-assisted tools. From bedroom beatmakers to Oscar-winning composers, we’re building the future of sound—together.
     
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  4. Tony Cowin

    Tony Cowin Newbie

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    "Splice pay for $50m Spitfire".

    Did they buy three of their libraries?
     
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  5. twoheart

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    As far as the last half-sentence is concerned, I think it's more of a desperate attempt of the old owners to squeeze money out of the company. And that's what they have managed to do.
    With a cash settlement of $50m, I would assume that the company is generating a gross profit of around $5m. the company is generating a net loss.

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  6. Haze

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    I don't disagree with your take on them cashing in. Value locked into an active company isn't the same as cash in your own bank account though. Being offered a sum like that is certainly incentive enough to cash out and head for the hills, or even start again with a high degree of financial security at your disposal, if desired. I know what I'd be doing and it wouldn't involve starting again, that's a certainty...
     
  7. Haze

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    All that stuff is sorted out in the contract changeover.
     
  8. Mynock

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    Have you ever considered that a company like Splice (hypothetically speaking, and I state that I generally don't appreciate their products) could, upon acquiring a company that produces samples, gain the rights to use that content?

    And what if that same company creates a database for AI-generated tracks using samples already collected from something like Spitfire? Imagine: the user sets tags [orchestral track, with two sections: the first featuring randomness and some quartal chords, and the second composed using the enigmatic scale, prioritizing chords with major thirds and major seconds; first section, 40 seconds, second section, 21 seconds, blah blah blah], so their AI would have terabytes of files to select from and assemble a track.

    This could be the beginning of something immeasurable... or the end of musical composition as we know it... Be it one thing, the other, or both, industry music producers, film producers and executive producers only stands to benefit (economically speaking, of course!)

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  9. clone

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    Putting some peoples' predisposition to AI-related conspiracy theories aside, how would this benefit Splice at all? The more AI-generated or assisted music production becomes widely accepted, Splice would be damaging their own brand and products by promoting any of it. They are in the business of selling samples to those, who cannot or do not; make their own. They are also selling the idea that only the "right sounds" are what separate their customers from creating music successfully, whatever that means to the individual.

    So how does a company with services like that turn to an AI related business model? They would be telling their users they do not need to worry about writing songs/tracks, and no need to pay for samples the AI will not use anyway? (or already will, without any direction).

    The last thing these companies selling samples want is AI poking into their business. They need human customers who will fall for what they are selling.
     
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  10. PulseWave

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    Thanks @Mynock, i think something similar will happen, just to save costs,
    I think AI will be cheaper and put some people in the music industry out of work.
     
  11. Xupito

    Xupito Audiosexual

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    Damn, that's like a lapidary one-liner
     
  12. Smeghead

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    My impression of Spitfire was generally very good recordings and programming that ranged between lazy and atrocious. Am I wrong?
     
  13. phloopy

    phloopy Audiosexual

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    yes, that could also be a motive I agree.
     
  14. ArticStorm

    ArticStorm Moderator Staff Member

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    Probably right there. Audio market feels very unstable if you are in a company in the size of spitfire.
     
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  15. PulseWave

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    Hello @ArticStorm, almost all companies know exactly when it's time to get out. They always keep a close eye on their balance sheets and revenues. They can potentially use their expertise elsewhere, as well as profitably sell the acquired customer base, including usernames and user emails, to others.

    Imagine you own a company that is no longer making enough profit to cover its costs. What would you do?
     
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  16. ArticStorm

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    Yes of course, but my answer above was based on the thought that spitfire was profitable ... now this would contradict your setting.

    Unless Splice thought, we need orchestral stuff based on kontakt in our catalog? And saw it really as an asset and nothing more than that, without considering that spitfire might be profitable?
     
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  17. black bounty

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    there's a redefinition of the business model for creation as we speak, what we all should care about is copyright.

    You can't fill their void with your creativity, the Tech industry has been trying for years now to destroy inspiration as a byproduct of a constructive mind, but it's not.

    Either you've got something to express, either you don't.

    People listen to Messages, not sounds.

    :bow: blessings, community.
     
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  18. Reas

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    I bet they will use spitfire libraries to create ai generated cash grab mediocre sample packs and try to sell them to young ppl. Bad move, also the video is weird to watch, like a hostage footage lol
     
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  19. PulseWave

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    Hello @ArticStorm, not all company decisions are well-thought-out and sensible. It could also be that Splice has a lot of money on hand and wanted to reinvest it to their advantage. Profits often have to be taxed. The lower the profits, the less taxes there are.

    Of course, profitable companies sometimes merge with other companies, but that's rather rare. I think it's more about Kontakt customer data, which can then be offered other Splice products. Keyword: Data is the new gold!
     
  20. ArticStorm

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    have not thought about that, but could be true.

    tbh i havnt used splice ever ... i am already drowning in samples, even i deleted 200+GB one shots and bigger samples, its still to much and i came back to like ~500 samples regularly :rofl:
     
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