Focusrite USB Soundcard Upgrade - 1ms Latency?

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  1. Plendix

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    I have my tier list for interfaces according to my finances and that are (I'm getting to the latency, just a sec):
    Whenever possible I buy RME because of the long support (thus coming cheaper in a long run)
    When not possible or not necessary (because for the road or whatever) I buy Steinberg interfaces (yamaha that is in fact).
    I have stuff from steinberg that is 15 years old and is still supportet. (Its going to be hard to beat rme, oldest interface around here is 25 years and running and getting new drivers.)
    And when I need something to trash (field recording rainy day) its behringer.
    (And I must say Behringer is not as bad as it was 15 to 20 years ago).
    Now there is another reason I buy RME and Steinberg: Accoring to dawbench (and I did those thests myself, they're right about it) RME and Steinberg drivers were THE ONLY ONES not lying about the latency (the driver tells the daw what latency there is, and it can say whatever it wants). ESI was really bad at this with some of their interfaces saying 1,22ms and they were 6ms in fact.
    So.. I lately bought an IXO22 from Steinberg and it goes down to 1.77ms on 44.1khz. (its less of you up the samping rate).
    That is amazing and as the driver architecture is still the same from back then, I'm confident these values are true.
    That interface was on sale lately for about 50 bucks, for that price its just amazing.
    oh, and another thing: RME and Steinberg write their drivers in house. They don't buy some chip, take that dll from some company and wrap it in their CI - like ALL the others. (and that is why the others cant support over a long period, they couldnt even if they wanted to).

    //edit// what I want so say: I would prefer an interface I know is not lying about the latency with 1.77 over one I can not trust saying 1ms. keep in mind 0.77ms is you sitting 20cm / 7inches further away from your speakers
     
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  2. Swatch

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    This are some insane Values, thank you for that :)
    What you wrote is for Mac or for Windows "Drivers" ?
    Im going to make some research into Steinberg Soundcards.

    Edit after 10 seconds : ^^Steinberg/Yamaha really provides drivers for Silicon Mac Systems.

    Will have a deeper look into that. Thank you :)
     
  3. Plendix

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    True, I'm on PC, but as the Silicon Macs are the newer 'more modern' architecture than windows pc I guess the latency there might even be lower? At last it wont be more, I guess.
     
  4. Swatch

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    GUUUUYYS: I made a big progress here on my Project.
    I got them in Sync :)

    I´m without my Interface and read somewhere, that Ableton has some kind of Track Delay.
    Positive Delay, but also: MINUS Delay.
    So the incoming audio will be fit to the Project.

    In my case today with the Macbooks Core Audio i need to set the Delay to -32 MS
    I recorded a Drumloop from Logics Drummer and a Serum2 Guitar Loop also coming from Logic triggered from Abletons Midi.

    It was just for super fast testing and i need to reconstruct this when i´m back home with my Interface.
    But this is already AWESOME!

    Still i want to get a new "Budget" interface and i restricted myself to a
    Focusrite, Steinberg (Not sure which one) or the Motu M2
    They all are in my price range and offer some good quality and features.
     

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  5. Radio

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    Steinberg UR22C Red - 149 € www.thomann.de/de/steinberg_ur22c_red.htm
    Steinberg UR22C Green - 149 € www.thomann.de/de/steinberg_ur22c_green.htm

    Overall Steinberg's UR22C interface maintains the level of quality we have associated with the company's UR interfaces – clean and crisp recordings, a rugged enclosure and all for a very decent price. The 'C' update adds faster connectivity, higher bit rates and the DSP effects with zero latency are a real bonus for input recording. The software bundle is a great addition with those two versions of Cubase, the dspMixFx mixing software plus Basic FX Suite (which includes the VST 3, AU and AAX versions of the onboard DSP plug-ins) and with USB power it's a great mobile solution. Quality and mobility don't come much better at this price.

    Steinberg UR22C Review - Did Steinberg improve the legendary UR22?
     
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  7. Plendix

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    True, those are built like tanks, I love those. The IXOs are a little more plasticy. but right now you get a 2 channel ixo for 49 bucks and for that I'd say its a no brainer (just not when you need a midi interface, they have none built in)
    https://www.thomann.de/de/steinberg_ixo_22_black.htm
     
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  8. SacyGuy

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    totally agree
     
  9. Swatch

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    That's really crazy. Will order this one and then I will see. I'm very curious and interested in their drivers.

    Thank you guys very much
    Will do some reporting and feedback next week.

    Happy Eastern
     
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    The headphone output is controlled by the main output volume on the IXO 22 so be aware of that if you are also using monitors you don't blow your ears out before doing so. Likewise, if you are using headphones and have needed to turn up the gain because it is probably fairly weak amp that you turn it back down before you listen through the monitors. You don't get back hearing that you abuse and lose.
     
  11. Swatch

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    Thanks for the info. Really appreciate it :)

    My.old Focusrite has also just one knob.
    I don't use monitors often.
    90% Headphones with the Dt700 ProX. They don't need much power. :)
     
  12. midi-man

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    No you are right that is not that slow. But this thread was about getting lower than that.
     
  13. clone

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    You can also apply positive or negative recording delay values in Logic, under Logic preferences-> Audio-> Devices, immediately under your buffer setting. You can use the slider or just input +/- values manually. It uses a measurement of Samples. You can easily calculate that value by doing samples = ms x session sample rate in kilohertz (so 44.1 or 48.0, etc).
     
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