Just released a product i think many people will find helpful, just wanted to spread the word. I built a plugin (vst3, au, aax) that connects you to real analog synths to get actual analog tone. Its not an emulator, its not a sampler, it really connects your to actual analog synths.

Would love to know what people think! If you have any suggestions or concerns would love to talk about it. IMO i made this becasue i think giving people access to high end synths for much much much cheaper is cool, also i like digital recall and stuff DAWs support, but i love analog tone so this kinda combines everything



WALKTHROUGH VIDEO:

 

www.neiroaudio.com/web/ ---> Full Version 199,99 €

 

$200 USD actually!

 

Can u explain how this works? How can I connect to real thing using vst?

 

@biginjapan happy to! Check out the video at the bottom of the post, but TLDR:
1) Users play our state of the art digital emulation, can set presets, craft sounds, turn nobs, play notes, instant sound since its digital emulation on your computer
2) When you are happy, you "Capture" within the plugin (press a button then play your section of music)
3) Plugin sends pacakge to my server of midi notes, preset info, and param automations
4) My studio downloads the data package, and feeds it into the synth, recording the output automatically, no humans involved over here
5) Studio uploads the recorded audio back to server
6) Plugin downloads recorded audio and now plays analog recording back instead of digital emulation

 

Wow! I am gonna check it out

 

i checked video and i think its great stuff. i for sure gonna buy it one day. i wish u luck guys.

 

Thanks! Follow the instragram to stay tuned for more products in the future if you are not ready to buy now!

 

So... lets say.. 400 people send 10 minutes of 'tracks' to have them converted to the real thing (in real time).. per day...
Are you gonna:
A) Send the vst-captured file back saying 'now its the good stuff, put it in your daw' (thus scamming people) or
B) Rent a building, have hundreds of those synths you say at last one exists set up, maintained, powered up and so on?
Would it be possible to show the setup that is now used to convert those captures?
Wouldn't it be an awesome idea to show it in the pitch video?
Why do I have to come up with awesome ideas like that?
Are you late to the first of april party?

 

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea. Kind of like when Thomann did the pedal test as a marketing stunt, where you could play your guitar through fancy pedals on your browser. Clever idea, that.

But ehh, a 106 a "high end synth"? It's a classic for sure, but just you wait until you start getting complaints about the noise...

 

What if emulation sounds better then original analogue synth?

 

A 106 is not a 5K synth like the webpage claims. Not even close. That Kiwi mod is $200 if you do not have to pay a tech to install it. No mention of the audio interface being used, no details of mixer, hardware effects, etc. No actual details about anything. Pretty hard to trust anything else mentioned when something so simple as the price of a used market synth is so deliberately false.

It's funny but people actually complain about the new Roland Cloud plugin versions making noise too. This is like a service for high-end users and their money, but only low information marks for potential customers.

 

I wonder if it could mimic the glitchy modulations you get when recording/playing 106 fader data via a shitty MIDI interface...

 

Probably not. That kind of thing can be the best strange samples you can get from a synth; but you have to be already recording systemwide audio to catch them. The Access plugin sometimes does the same thing when you stop DAW playback, randomly after you just pushed stop.
Sadly, I know exactly the scenario you mean.

 

I wonder if the Roland ACB versions would respond to the scenario you lay out. I too am not familiar with the phenomenon you describe, as I'm not a real 106 person myself, but would be interesting to know how deep acb modeling goes... I do know that some other 'ghosts in the machine' issues from other acb synths or drum machines were able to be replicated in early releases, but I haven't heard it spoken about in awhile...

 

The trick/glitch/error/problem (depending on how you look at it) is simply recording a 106 output when adjusting the faders, more the merrier. Now, because Roland hadn't yet figured MIDI out properly it only sends/responds to normal CC on the pitch/mod stick. The rest of the faders send Sysex. This means it will send out a shitloads of sysex commands that a sequencer can't thin/optimize, and playing it back chokes out cheaper MIDI interfaces (like the serial port one I had back in the day), and it will confuse the 106 when played back with lot of possibly broken messages. Whatever the cause, very odd sounds can be had.

It's frustrating on so many levels because editing the sysex soup is a massive pain, and if you're looking to record a specific performance it might never play back that way. And as @clone said, if you want to capture a nice glitch you basically have to record it to audio at all times.

 

Oh ok, yeah I get that. It was a thing with more than one synth back in the day as midi was a serial protocol and easy on both ends (synth and sequencer etc) to overwhelm... and remember the "strumming" sound you would get with some synths, let alone when they went multitimbral and just the timing was whack.... I get you... and given the difference on that unit with how you are describing it handling things via sysex vs cc etc... I imagine that could produce some interesting results... and would have to capture it then as it was gonna be different on the next playback, let alone tomorrow kinda thing.

sysex just carried more data (lot longer strings...), and more data over that stream I'd imagine would muck up the works.... wonder why Roland did that back then with 106 other then simply the fact midi was a pretty nascent tech at the time... I didn't know this about the unit... and I'd imagine the acb versions regardless do not emulate this as it's a handshaking/2 unit event... unless they only allowed to be mapped or send/receive that in a serial vs parallel way and choke.... and I doubt it...

 

It seems like it's essentially some guys who made an Roland 106 and OB-XA emulation (don't know if their emu's are any good), but you do your thing with their product, upload it to them, and after paying 199 euros for the software versions, you have a limited amount of minutes in which they will then "render" your data through their "real" synths and send it back to you.

Kinda like a basement version of the failed Roland Terra Piano Cloud or whatever kinda......

Many questions still seem to remain lol. From scalability, to hey, what do you actually have? and why are they worth what you say they are? to why would I?..... and all down the line.....

I get the idea.... and sure, a lot of us have been sent midi tracks of things from collaborators or whatnot that we've "revoiced"/"rerecorded" perhaps with different gear or "real" analog gear or whatnot.... but they are seemingly selling "real" analog mojo at attempt to scale... which obviously can present a host of problems and more questions, and their website is not very informative as to things like "details"....

so for that 4 minute song you wrote Artic in which you want you bassline printed out and sent back to you "real" analog, after your initial allotment of minutes and downpayment on the software itself at ~$200 or euro's, your gonna be dropping another $3+ more to get that.

I don't know,.. I don't want to cast shade or aspersion, nor have I seen any photos of their "synth farm" as they haven't provided them etc... (and how are they recording these and through what? etc etc etc)... but it just seems like a combination of bad ideas that have failed in the past and present a load of problems in scalability ... (unless people actually damn pay that much for it lol....)

Maybe I'm missing something, and I don't mean to be harsh or discourage the gentlemen... but I'd like to hear a more coherent explanation with more data, images etc...

 

Is this service like a condominium timeshare in Mariupol? Enquiring minds want to know.