[SOLVED] Gate automation

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    Hello all. I really like the Lindell 80 channel strip for its gate. However, when trying to automate it, I realized it's very buggy and unreliable. Does anyone know a gate plugin as powerful as that one that could be normally automated? I tried ReaGate, but couldn't come close to the same sound...
     
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    Polyverse Gatekeeper. I more often use this as an effect, because the Noise Gate in Logic is simple and perfect how it is. I also like to sidechain Logic's gate to my kick track and Logic's test oscillator to add sub to the kick. Gatekeeper is way beyond that simple stuff.

    Fabfilter Pro-G is the in-between option for me. You probably already have it.


    Gatekeeper allows for automation, making it a versatile tool for controlling and shaping audio dynamics.
    Here's a more detailed explanation of Gatekeeper's capabilities:
    • Noise Gate Functionality:
      Gatekeeper is designed as a versatile volume modulator and can act as a noise gate, allowing you to silence unwanted noise or parts of your sound.
    • Automation Features:
      The plugin allows for sample-accurate volume automation and can function as an LFO, envelope, step sequencer, and more.
    • Rhythmic Gating:
      Its strength lies in rhythmic gating, providing precise control over audio modulation.
    • Smoothing Algorithm:
      Gatekeeper utilizes a unique variable smoothing algorithm, enabling users to achieve drastic gating effects without unwanted clicks or pops.
    • CV/MIDI Output:
      Gatekeeper can even output CV and MIDI, expanding its use for control of external hardware.
    • Gain, Pan, and Envelope Controls:
      You have gain, pan, and envelope controls for each envelope, allowing for creative possibilities
    • Automating Nodes:
      Right-click on a node and select "Automate" to bind it to one of the 64 automation channels available.
    • Multiple Modes:
      Gatekeeper can operate as a simple ADSR, an LFO, or a complex envelope, step sequencer, or sample-accurate volume automator.
     
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    The decisive trick is to set ReaGate Attack to 0, Hold to ~ 100, Release to ~130 and RMS size to 0ms.
    If the last one is higher, it's not responding to peak.
     
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    I wonder if it's because I'm automating 8 parameters at once, 4 in the VCA and 4 in the gate section. I'm drawing 8 ramps to get from A to B (a very loose sound to a very tight sound), but it just jumps from ultra loud to ultra quiet very sharply if I let it run from the beginning to the end of the automation ramp — whereas if I play the final part and come back a few bars, then the automation responds differently. (I have checked every automation item and found no likely culprit.)

    But yeah, I made an I-statement about ReaGate because I used to diss Reasamplomatic 5k and have recently learned that it is indeed one of the best samplers around! Thanks for the examples.
     
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    Are the knobs responding accordingly?
    Keep in mind, the gate comes after the compresor (strangely), so with critical settings and compressor gain, it might produce strange results.
     
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    You mean graphically on the UI? Yes. What bugs me is that I've never managed to get such a wide range of loose–tight hats with another plugin. But I'm running some tests with the DC8C from Klanghelm and getting some interesting (albeit different) results. Now I need to master ReaGate, or try Pro-G, which I wasn't even aware of...
     
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    Yes, Lindell 80 has without doubt its charme.

    Oh, three dozen parameters in expert mode, good luck. [​IMG]
     
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