also UMG etc are all acting like they are pro copyright and pro muscians but are only saying this to protect their master rights investment. If they really cared about musicans we would see that behavior reflected in their actions

 

This is exactly what you do with your endless Google copy/pasta.

Pot/kettle etc

 

Thanks for the tip, I'll try to break this bad habit, give me some time.

But also try to be a little fair, I really have spent a lot of hours helping people with their problems here.
I was also able to solve a lot of problems.

 

Deezer deploys cutting-edge AI detection tool for music streaming frrom Jade Bernet - Jan 24, 2025

Deezer aims to tag AI generated content to increase transparency for users and safeguard the rights of creators.

- Two patent applications were filed in December 2024 to protect the tech

- The new tool detected that over 10 % of all tracks delivered daily to the platform are AI generated – this content will be removed from algorithmic recommendations

https://newsroom-deezer.com/2025/01...g-edge-ai-detection-tool-for-music-streaming/

 

In the long term ai music will surpass human music… even Judged by humans…may be in a century or a year.
Is as easy ..like predicting in the 19 century that a plane would fly faster and higher than a bird.
I am happy with it?
no.

 

I don't agree that they should remove Ai generated music. Some people still listen to it. I do too. Some of it are nice to listen to. Just don't monetize it and specify that it's Ai generated. It's like furniture that comes off an automatic assembly line compared to hand crafted furniture. Some people don't mind buying the factory made furniture. Others prefer hand crafted.

 

• The potential in music is good if used well.
• The potential in other areas is already showing itself to be misused for clandestine purposes as shown below with a link to where the image comes from and the article.

So the real question is do you tar it with the same brush or not? I am not sure you can keep it for one purpose and stop it being used for the worst kind of reasons. I have no idea if that is remotely possible.



https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/hackers-are-using-ai-to-breach-systems-faster-than-ever/

 

You can find great uses for emerging tech (AI) on the same site too. There are breakthroughs happening.... curing diseases, helping us create, enabling disabilities, and solving hunger.

It’s easy to focus on the bad, whether in the world or in ourselves, and sometimes that gets projected outward. But it all comes down to how a person chooses to approach these tools.




https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/google-ai-career-dreamer-job-search-tool/

5 amazing gadgets that are helping Blind people see
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/blind-technologies/

Prospera wants to use AI to bring agriculture into the 21st century
https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/prospera-ai-agriculture/

Microsoft shows how AI can make a construction site safer at Build 2017
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/microsoft-build-2017-ai-workplace/

The best AI tools of 2024: all the generative AI apps you need to try
https://www.digitaltrends.com/compu...eading-the-best-ai-tools-for-image-generation

 

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I also find it ironic that there is a negative article about hacking being bad posted on a sister site to a place where hacked software is shared.

I’m confused?
If hacking used to get free versions of paid software and take money away from the developers = good

If hacking used to take individuals information and hold it for ransom = bad

Im sure they will if not already. Our r2r gods or other friendly software tweakers will be using the power of these AI tools to provide the community with the software we love to use at the cost we have been paying.

 

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https://www.rollingstone.co.uk/musi...on-albarn-join-silent-ai-protest-album-48008/

 

Yes that is great but maybe leave out the bit telling you what to do or can do with your life FFS, because I am sure it could not only be misconstrued, but it could definitely be adjusted to do either.
I only say that because that's getting out of the realm of helping and into the realm of free will.

Hey, in the words of whoever it was - These are confusing times.

The way I see it is pretty much black and white. If it does not hurt anyone, does not rip anyone's life savings off, doesn't commit bad criminal acts, is not used to blow someone or a country to pieces... then it's good.

If it is used maliciously, there is never anything good in that

 

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@curtified - As for the people who hack and give away software they hack, one important point is they are not selling it. If they sell it then they deserve whatever they get if caught. There is a definite difference between sharing and taking money that belongs to someone else from hacking it. I know it seems like semantics, but it's not really. Both can be construed as a form of piracy I guess, but only one is maliciously greedy. Most hackers only do it because it's there. In fact the good ones say do not sell it or make money from it, likely because they never did it to make a profit. You mentioned R2R - they say that very clearly.

 

As some internet users lose context when reading only short messages, their understanding of the actual situation is incomplete, as they either have to read different sources or read at least one A4 page to be able to grasp the topic at all.

The smart phone and short news services addicts will fall into the trap because the tech companies will only tell them what they need to know. In addition, the products with which tech companies earn their money are only presented in a positive light.

For people who have already lost their bearings, there is then mentored thinking in the form of “Google's AI can now tell you what to do with your life”! Out of curiosity and belief in technological progress and a lack of critical thinking, they will become victims and their personality will most likely adapt to the new system, so that they consider what they read to be reality.

 

I 've been thinking recently about the fiasco that happened with Meta's AI dling 80+ tbs of "illegal" torrents to train itself and Meta saying "but we didn't seed... much" hahaha. This gave me this simplistic idea.
If "someone's" AI (or should i say when?) hacks pharmaceutical patents and comes up with new "magical recipes" most likely all hell will break loose. Companies holding these patents are some of the strongest companies in the world and they guard their properties like the holy grail.
It remains to be seen what will happen, as only the free info & patents on drugs is an impossible task to digest mentally for a human, piece of cake for AI though...

 

but that's only half of the story, real deal will be having some kind of biometric 3D printer to actually print such drugs on your own

 

Since ever mainstream pop culture has made us so used to consuming loads of shit (and nothing else but this) that we now are more than ready to consume shit produced by bots.

What worries me the most is not the rise of all these new techs, but how people have been desensitized to take shit without even noticing.

 

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How big do you think the music making scene is? I saw somewhere that waves only has about 100k paid users of their plugins. How many employees does the company have? R&D, etc etc. Costs add up.

Dont get me wrong I visit sister site daily. But at the end of the day a pirated version of software thats out there does take from the mouths of someone.

Im sure you can see why I brought this up as a counter perspective on the AI hacking article.

 

yep and be enraged by a click bait article title about AI

 

DAMN! That girl was HOT back in the day... dyna-moe hum and the zircon encrusted tweezers...

 

Of course I can see why. I can say directly that I own 90% of all the plugins I regularly use. Of the remaining, about 5% I will definitely uninstall, and of the last 5%, I will likely try more and if they are regular, I will purchase them otherwise they go the path of the uninstalled 5%. I do truly try before I buy. Perhaps that's unusual, but not everyone has only 30 days to adequately try something out before the timer expires. I know I do not which I am sure you also understand.

If people want waves, Audiodeluxe has a a special for $300 with a mass of Waves plugins which includes the Platinum bundle. It won't get cheaper.

Why did I post this? Because I know I do not knowledgeably take from anyone's mouth. As for others, that's their own Karma. Truthfully, if the majority of trials for the plugins I might use were around 120 days, I probably wouldn't download much at all from the sister site other than something that does not offer a trial. I end up buying them anyway if they are useful as stated.

You disagreed but in your reply you did not state exactly which parts you disagreed with other than people might be getting hurt which is fair if you mean only financially not making as much as they want to - because I can prove a fair bit of it by simply posting R2R's regularly enclosed message which I know you've seen. As for the term piracy, it's variable depending on which legal authority gives a definition of it. Some people here think it is just sharing. Each to their own.
As for how big do I think the music scene is, I am surprised you did not ask how old I am while you are at it.

Well the A.I hacking article if you read it instead of taking out the part only relative to your points, was a shitload more malicious than copying software and cracking plugin protection.

 

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