Indian court asked to rule on whether Hindu guru dead or meditating.
My link

His body is in a freezer until the court decides. His followers fear to cremate him alive.
I never knew that meditation could be so dangerous.



I meditate to help me give up drugs, cigarettes, gambling,
drinking, promiscuous sex and my compulsion to drive much faster than 100 mph.
But I refuse to do dangerous things, like meditating until I'm buried alive.

Please help. Has meditation helped you and how? Has it hurt you or frighten you in some way?

 

Not sure if serious.....hmmm

 

Serious. This was on NBC news. My link

Genuine Search for Advice: I sometimes think that meditation leads to disturbing conclusions.

 

Meditation is for not-knowing people, for beginners.
Only rules, traditions, a real mess. As a religion...
Meditation is.... like cosmetics. Nothing happens inside, but only to the surface..
Each meditation leads you away from the truth.

Self-knowledge - that is only true.
Which is the source, rom everything.
The source of all meditations, ways, and knowledge..
(...and, of course - also the source of music)

 

Obviously it has a benefit to some people. It is said it's an effort to "destroy" the ego. When thought is stilled, one begins return to source...conception and thinking is what can get us into trouble. Generally I think meditation is not exactly for the "ego".

 

Chill, I am an Indian & such news are very common.
Don't pay attention on such stuff.

Meditation wont help alone, try yoga too
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=baba+ramdev+yoga

 

I was hoping to hear from you.
Now I will share an observation with you. The human ego is fear itself, and hell is in the subconscious.
I mean that literally. Which kind of takes the glamour out of total self-awareness.
That dilemma has hindered me, a coward to the marrow. If anyone here is qualified, I'd like to hear your thoughts (solutions) related to THAT subject.
Or does somebody really believe mindfulness (self-awareness) is just a picnic in the park?
By the way, I spent 30 years in upper Arctic Alaska -- polar ice cap, polar bears -- and it is starkly beautiful, ArcticStorm.

 

Buddha was asked what he had gained from meditation.
"Nothing." he replied.
"However", Buddha said, "Let me tell you what I have lost: Anger, Anxiety, Depression, Insecurity, Fear of Old Age and Death."
You don't meditate to get anything.

 

I've read some excellent scientific research on the benefits of meditation but stories like this scare the crap out of me...that there is actually a court on this planet that has to rule whether someone is meditating or dead. What a sad world we live in.

orgcha
There is no Buddha in the mystical sense of the word. It's just another superstition, there are so many. Why would I want to get rid of anger, one of the greatest motivating forces on this planet. Happy isn't always good, anger isn't always bad. It all depends on how it's used.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrAgtimDSCU​

 

For me meditation helps to create space between input and reaction, allowing me to decide rather than to react, a kind of being here now and not dragged around or stampeded by wispy ghosts both past and present.

 

So glad that you joined it. I'm running out of steam to keep it rolling. (Awake for 36 hours, now, and I've got a dinner date.) But running out of steam ain't always bad. My concept of Buddha is everybody and nobody, simultaneously. That's also how I think of God. Does that make me a humanist? I hope so. How can I stay awake for days and remain coherent? Meditation mixed with genes from wolves. (I lied about taking drugs and drinking. Shame forever on me.)

 

I don't know, I don't think about God. I don't know what kind of twisted God would ever have created the freakshow called planet Earth to play little games with us. And if there really is such a God then I don't want to play this game. *no*

 

Still going to continue to learn to meditate as the benefits outweigh the risk although a little paranoid now.

P.S. I believe in God and Jesus but not Buddha.

 

The closest I get to meditation is prayer.

Gotta say, since I started chin wagging to the Big Boss, my life and the things around me, just seem so much..... MORE!

Hard to explain really. I always envied people with true faith, like they had something that I would never have cus my mind is far too 21st century, science led, logic driven to find any solace in religion. What a strange a twisty path we tread. The further I look into quantum physics (the double slit experiment.... Whaaaaaa?!?), plasma theory, etc, the more I saw an awful lot of "theory" and "belief systems" built upon more theories and belief systems. Darwinsm for example

Anyhoo, like I said, my life is just more MORE knowing there is in fact..... MORE!!!

Hope you find that which you seek Brother and that it doesn`t end up with you in a fridge!!!

 

I'm allergic to the word because it has become attached to control over people's vision and that I consider the real sacrilege. People are so dependent on science for so many important things yet treat it like dogma which it most certainly is not.

Pilzy
The way you describe it is as if scientists woke up one day and decided that we evolved from other lifeforms on a whim which we most certainly did and there is quite a bit of evidence available in this regard which you so callously discount. What do you want them to do have irrefutable evidence about the meaning of existence? That is not the role of science but rather to give the closest approximation of what the world really is. I think you're expecting too much. People complain about science yet for some reason when they get sick they're not visiting faith healers but rather doctors. The difference between science and god is that if a theory is ever proven wrong it will correct itself, people's views on God never do. There have been experiments in which a part of someone's brain was stimulated and they came out of it speaking about having such a profound religious experience but yet we know that wasn't the case. People believe in God for one reason: fear. They cannot accept the world as it is so that have to give it some order or some kind of grand meaning. The fact that they get to live and experience is not imbued with enough majesty for them. Nobody wants to hear that they will die one day and become food for other lifeforms, that is not comforting after all. Science is not concerned with comfort, it is concerned with truth.

 

I may have given the incorrect idea that I am Buddhist. I am not. I do, however find wisdom in the words of many....be they be recognized as "Masters" or some hobo who lives in a box behind iHop. (BTW, I have had conversations with a few of the great unwashed and a lot of them are great observers of the human condition)
I have an idea for those who cannot believe God made this miserable world: What if God didn't? What if our fucked up perception is the world? Maybe our collective unconscious formed the great satan called the ego? What if we believe this great satan to be God?
"IF" is a motherfucker, huh?

 

Interesting topic, started from bull shit thought.
I shared most of your view Catalyst and superliquid23

God is our mind, with all the crap it implies if we don't let it a bit opened