How AI can help you learn to use your gear...... Thoughts?

Discussion in 'Ai for Music' started by StormChaser, Feb 24, 2025 at 4:13 PM.

  1. tzzsmk

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    yea it's absolutely amazing :rofl:
    instead of learning how to read, you can just use a (soon paid and interleaved with ads) google service to waste your time listening to an artificial podcast-like bloat while still lacking condensed factual information,
    oh and yea sure if you can't just use ctrl+F and find what you need in the manual, then do you even expect manufacturers to spend any more effort doing manuals in the future?
    :deep_facepalm:
     
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    Hmm, interesting post. I am a really occasional AI user. Could ChatGPT create an amxd plugin for Max For Live to record/save/send SysEx data in Ableton?
     
  3. tzzsmk

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    openwebui has very little to do with google's notebookLM :no:

    incredible, at merely 4000-5000 bucks you can avoid using your own brain, what an amazing deal :rofl:
    on a side note, 128GB VRAM already isn't enough for current big 670b models (needs around 700GB VRAM)
     
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  4. StormChaser

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    When I watched the video and saw its initial output in to text I also thought well he's gonna have to read that so why not just read the manual instead :)
     
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    They were asking about offline projects that can run LLMs, so at least I tried to be constructive and helpful and not just a plain cunt. :yes:
     
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    WE have now entered psycho-cuckoo land... One might be inclined to conjure why the FIND function in a PDF reader is somehow inadequate to the task of looking shit up in a manual??? :dunno: So instead, you must download some kind of crap-ware, hook your production machine to the internet, and have your privacy compromised, just to pose a question to a KIOSK (not AI) for an answer you could have safely gotten OFFLINE in two seconds just by pressing CTRL-F...
    :rofl:
     
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  7. tzzsmk

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    no they weren't,
    Google's NotebookLM isn't just a large language model, it's a rather advanced retrieval augmented generator (not sure if agentic yet) :chilling:
    those selfhosted platforms you mentioned are not exactly beginner stuff,
    if anyone wants something simpler, then I'd rather vouch for LM Studio with optional AnythingLLM frontend
     
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    yea it's just incredible how 35+ years of computer evolution where people "advanced" from prompting terminal/bash to clicking mouse and having full GUI is now evolving backwards
    :hillbilly:
     
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    oh yeah ive done it! you can also use tools like cursor, or tailwind to code build and deploy code from prompts. I made a vst a few days ago with it. You can iterate features into your plugins with natural language too!
     
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    NotebookLM is amazing! I threw in abletons Making Music: 74 Creative Strategies for Electronic Music Producers book along with rick rubins creative book, a bunch of other links and text around creativity in music. I interact with it on my way to the gym frequently. If you use it in studio mode you can ask deep questions and it uses those books, links, youtubes, you gave it like floppy disks of data to pull from and help you better understand a subject. Its pretty amazing and helpful!

    Another use for it is to better yourself. Ive put in some hard conversations I have had in the past. For instance i put the last 3 months of a breakup i was going through via text into it. It really helped me better my behavior in relationships and I got to get a birds eye perspective on that relationship and myself.

    Just giving some other creative uses for the tech.
     
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    Using ML for introspective soul searching?
     
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    interesting threath,you tube is an online IA,in some cases better than manuals.
    ahh,i wish back those days,when music store attache manual with hardware goods,
    i mean user manuals.
    nowadays everything it´s online,including medical analisis,next will be AI
    Doctor´s online?just wondering,that´s a good deal anyway.
     
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    I'm genuinely curious if "sharing" such content with AI tools isn't considered copyright infringement :cool:
     
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    If your internet goes down or the power goes out, you're sitting helplessly in front of the screen.

    Manuals, i.e. paper, used to be standard, but it was discontinued for cost reasons because most users download online PDFs.
    The boxes for shipping and CD ROMS have also completely disappeared.

    I'll have a few manuals Cakewalk - z2ta+ multilingual, Arturia - Prophet V multilingual and Waldorf Largo multilingual!
    The analogue is becoming digital.
     
  15. StormChaser

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    Thats a very interesting perspective.
     
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    I think there is some truth in that for sure.. I love technology I really do but not at the cost of me becomming lazy or I turn to AI before I do some thinking of my own.

    I guess we all know that buzz you get when you have a problem which can feel like for days for you to then come up with the solution or work around, I'd never want to lose that else I'd lose my self achievement, everyone likes a pat on the back even if one is patting their own back.
     
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    A PDF file sucks if the hardware is in racks or keyboard stands on the other side of the room and 20 feet away from your monitor.

    You'd know, if you actually had any equiptment. Ever. That's pretty much up there with not knowing how to use a firewall or that you can buy a usb wifi adapter for like 10 bucks which you can disable in 1 click.
     
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    Totally with you on that I used to love buying boxed software with the CD-ROM and a good chunky user manual inside, not to mention the box art work and the information on the back of the box, screen shots etc, it was a time where I used to keep all my boxes with pride and joy, now most things are just a download, no box, no manual, just some code that sits on your computer and nothing to look at offline.

    Its like music there were so many music outlets with all there DVD's, CDs, Games, Top 50 CD Singles, Top 10 CD Albums we could spend hours in these stores just browsing looking for gems. Now these kinds of stores are very few and far between and not the same as it used to be just limited items.. Most of it is streaming and again just digital downloads, no CD Album or Single in a box just digital code with an index reference in our playing apps.

    I miss that feeling of looking for a CD to play, taking it out of its box and placing it in the CD Players tray and pressing that play button, such good times, BUT as hypocritical as this is I now also like that I can have my entire CD collection on my phone in my pocket ready to play any track at any time.

    I used to have boxes of cassette tapes in my car back in the day. :)
     
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    Very nice report from your life that hits the nail on the head. Digital is cold and impersonal on the one hand but cheap, fast and economical. Let's make sure we collect the old treasures and surround ourselves with them. All my records are digital, very practical but I like to pick up an LP cover to feel something again.

    I think eBay and flea markets will be the new churches, where you can still bid on, buy or exchange equipment that enriches your life.
    From the cassette (less durability and loss of sound) to the CD ROM (scratches and light are your death) was a great step forward.

    There are young people today who feel lonely in the middle of a crowd. I met people here who neither look at you nor say hello because they are checking their appointments and messages on their smartphone. I think that's one less.

    At some point, some people will wish for a permanent power outage or they will throw their smartphones out of the window or smash them with a hammer. Maybe they will come to their senses and use the devices correctly and economically. Ryanair will soon no longer allow you to get a flight ticket without a smartphone.
     
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    Don't let AI know that you're too dumb to read a manual. When the cull starts you'll be among the first to go.
     
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