let's start with recent thread posted here on forums, about AI chatbot suggesting EQ plugins - https://audiosex.pro/threads/best-eq-plugin-according-to-ai.79150/

- when you think it couldn't get any worse, let me share this disturbing video:

for those lacking time to watch (though I highly recommend), plot twist is 99% of whatever results you get in online searches are just AI generated bloat...

- in scope of our audio community, good luck finding any meaningful information about recording/producing/mixing music online, as well as good luck using AI chatbots (with or without internet search capabilities) to drown yourself in all that shit

 

I'll do a little advertising for the good old book. If you can still read and concentrate on something for more than 10 minutes, then you've come to the right place. If you really want to learn how something actually works, the best books have been written.

1. Bob Katz: Mastering Audio

Review: www.soundonsound.com/reviews/bob-katz-mastering-audio
Mastering Audio by Bob Katz - (ISBN 0240805453) £29.99 / EUR 39,50

2. Bobby Owsinski - Record Like a Pro - The Handbook for Recording Engineers

In this book, Bobby Owsinski passes on to interested musicians and recording engineers the recording techniques that are part of the tried and tested tools of the best recording engineers. In addition, he answers questions such as: "What is the best way to record a snare so that it comes across with a lot of punch?" or "How do I get a really big guitar sound like (insert the guitarist of your choice here) does?"

After the microphone basics and recording methods, the book contains miking instructions and suggestions for the 75 most important instruments.

"Record Like a Pro" is divided into three sections:

Chapters 1 to 9 are devoted to microphone basics, as well as a description of some classic models that are often used and the techniques used by the best recording engineers in the business. Of particular interest in Chapter 7 is the interview with Ross Garfield, the "Drum Doctor," who provides tips and techniques on how to best set up a drum kit for studio use.

Chapters 10 and 11 provide an overview of how recording will evolve with the increased importance of surround technology. Chapter 12 contains a final recording checklist that you can consult if things don't sound as you want.

Chapters 13 to 25 contain interviews with some of the world's best, most experienced (and in some cases legendary) recording engineers, such as Eddie Kramer, Bruce Botnick, Mack and Al Schmitt. A glossary of useful terms concludes this book.

Bobby Owsinski, Recording Like the Pros: ISBN 3-910098-40-1, 978-3-910098-40-4, 429 pages, DIN A4, EUR 37.50

 

@Radio - that's a very legit genuine advice, especially if one can find actual physical book locally,
though I'd be careful about pirating ebooks, since sooner or later those will be drown among bloat of deceptive AI clones too

 

“This 'snacking' on news has ruined my reading so much. This swiping and scrolling and the fact that you're also interactive and active with your cell phone is completely different - I think it's also a completely different behavior for the brain than when you really have a book in your hand, a silent piece of paper that you have to work your way through.”

Have we forgotten how to read? Have we lost the patience to immerse ourselves in stories in an information-overloaded environment in which we are bombarded with news every minute? In stories that are longer than a tweet, an email or a caption on Instagram?

Yes, says cognitive and literary scientist Maryanne Wolf. And describes the 21st century reader as a flighty fellow:
“His mind will flit from one stimulus to the next like a hummingbird lured by nectar, his attention will change in its nature very gradually, with consequences that no one can yet predict.”

Maryanne Wolf conducts research at the University of California in Los Angeles into what happens in the brain when we read. And she says that the way we skim texts and news today is now influencing our reading behavior:

“I kept hearing from people that they no longer read the way they used to. They no longer had that feeling of immersing themselves in a text, of finding themselves while reading and thus creating space for new thoughts. And I think that's one of the saddest aspects of our digital world: screens have really changed us. But I never thought it would happen to me.”

In her book "Fast Reading, Slow Reading - Why we must not forget how to read books", Wolf appeals to train our brains to read intensively and slowly again. Like the literary scholar, screenwriter Joseph Bolz also started an experiment to "learn" to read again.

"We tend to become impatient more quickly and find it harder to muster the necessary cognitive stamina and patience. Many people confirm this when we ask them about their preference for reading on paper or screens. The longer and more complex the text, the more likely you are to prefer printing it out and also to understand it better when reading it on paper."

Source: www.deutschlandfunkkultur.de/leseforschung-buch-oder-bildschirm-100.html

 

dude that is too funny, I've recently purchased both of these printed books, in my mind citing reasons not dissimilar to the topic of this thread. Part of a small splurge that also included the prepper disk, an offline but wifi capable 'internet-in-a-box' type product

 

What she describes is not an AI problem, but a scam/marketing problem.
You’re lured in with the promise that your question will be answered. Then you’re bombarded with a loooong article full of nonsense, so you spend a lot of time on the site and generate ad revenue. Only to realize in the end that your question was deliberately left unanswered because they want to sell you a product. This phenomenon is much older than LLMs. LLMs have just made it easier for scammers to throw bullshit software onto the market and flood the internet with marketing articles.


Think, for example, of audiophiles who - for decades - engage in stealth marketing for their products in every damn HiFi forum, send all sorts of "test" articles to various magazines, even set up websites that are supposed to feign independence, etc etc.
And if you have no clue, you might comb through the internet and come to the conclusion that you absolutely need those crystals to hang up, which improve your room acoustics, resonate with poorly vibrating frequencies, and make your music system magically sound better.

 

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One hour video to open a file is extraordinary...(she didn't). She is using Bing for search...Half-Edge 3D???
She gives 3hours+ Unity courses on her channel - guess what - Unity opens GLB files
Horrible!!!

 

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then stop using it
and dont make clickbait titles

 

AI massively accelerating the scam marketing is a problem anyway

 

she is showing what internet looks like, you don't have to watch full video of course, though last part of the video is brilliantly showing AI podcast based scam

 

The problem is scales and the lopsidedness of the amount of intellectual output of 8 billion humans vs the output of <1000 AI farms. You need to sleep, eat and forego guitar practice if you want to write lengthy rebuttals on forums; the other camp doesn't, nor does it care when it's wrong.

We're also a couple billion times slower in the noggin.

Normies already struggle/don't care about AI slop permeating their algo feeds. And the ability for AI to permeate into the general population as the only acceptable source of truth and facts will only increase as the ratio of AI content vs human-reasoned content out there starts approaching one to none.

"It's a machine. How can it be biased?"

When AI content starts exceeding 99.993% of all content (keep those scales in mind), whose "intellectual" output do you think the other AIs are going to consume for their own training? Whose output do you think humans are going to learn from? What's that gonna look like, 250 generations of AIs learning from other AIs (so like 10 years at the current rate)? Is there still going to be a kernel of truth in there somewhere? How discoverable will facts be then?

No matter how ahead of the curve you believe yourself to be, it won't last forever. You, like everyone else, will start falling for made-up, factually wrong AI shit. Eventually you will learn from people who also fell for AI "facts". You will echo those "facts" to your family, your parents, your friends, your kids.

Serious question: How much/how long would it take in such a situation to poison a country's shared pool of history and knowledge to the point that slavery starts looking like something "those people were asking for".

I'm guessing 10-15 years. Grandma's just remembering wrong - and she's starting to believe it too.

 

The best thing is to go back to the library and get your knowledge there in pure analog form.

 

I hear you.

It is not that people have forgotten how to read, or that they necessarily would choose to perpetually watch snippets of information, which does absolutely nothing for context.
While we shouldn't tar everyone with the same brush because that is never accurate, sadly, there is definitely a trend in the 21st Century towards laziness and instant gratification. So the likelihood of a majority reading a full dossier or book when they can go to a synopsis is quite small. I believe after we are all well gone, that if the world has not destroyed itself, this will be known as the age of disinformation.

 

Analog or Digital? AI or not AI? I used to be against, now I have embraced it. It is always up to you to make an informed decision.
And in order to do that you need knowledge.

I find this video has an interesting debate, that could just as well apply to AI. Maybe it is something for you.

- You got to go with it , you know, and if you become unable to deal with it, that is fine because that means your time is finished, it is time for other people to take it on. 1:22:38s - Danny Boyle - Movie Director

 

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anything that can be generated with a predictive model isn't worth generating

 

Thank you @Somnambulist for your assessment. I'm glad I'm not completely alone in my opinion.

After all, we warned against it...! And I hope we were all able to save a few souls, even though some of our peers have forgotten how to listen and only their own ego counts and the internet is used as a platform for self-expression.

 

When swimming in a river of shit the important thing is simply not to stop moving.

 

This is one of my secret hideouts, always loved libraries, since kid, better than any AI

 

AI is a weapon, and every time you use it, you are training it in how to defeat and use you, to defeat others. I would never use AI for anything of any importance. I would not engage in AI conversations.

 

people are being herded like animals. Animals are often herded to control them, usually they become comfortable with being herded and eventually their comfort betrays them as they herded into the chutes to be harvested. People should consider, why they are being herded, and how to stay out of the herds.

Herding is always done for a purpose. Try to avoid being a part of that purpose.

people are being deliberately dumbed down and their abilities are stripped away, things like cursive writing and hence being able to read cursive are becoming obsoleted, voice control will remove typing and understanding the written word. Illiteracy will be very common with a generation. These are a few of many means of control being instantiated into common society, the dependence on phones and internet to do anything, including purchasing food, etc.

It is obvious humanity is being constrained and its intellectual abilities as well as its practical abilities to navigate the real world are being destroyed.

AI is another tool to remove your abilities and transfer it to an entity you can't control, and who's interactions can be taken from you once you are helpless with out it. AI and its access will become another means of control of every aspect of your life.

You can choose to opt out now, and if you don't, you won't be able to opt out in the future. You are being herded into an AI cage with an AI lock you won't be able to understand let alone open.

The bait will be tempting, that is the whole point of bait, to entice you to do something directly against your best interests.