How much money do you make of music monthly?

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How much money do you make of music monthly?

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  2. $100 ~ $500

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  3. $500 ~ $1000

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  4. $1000 ~ $1500

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  5. $1500 ~ $2000

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  6. $2000 ~ $5000

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  7. $5000 ~ $10000

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  8. > $10000

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  1. Radio

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    A wad of banknotes and some incriminating photos taken by your private detective for the purpose of blackmail will also make access much easier. Throw a few big, expensive parties. Rent a Ferrari and, above all, go to the local golf club to make contacts.
    Take courses in rhetoric and acting and buy expensive suits. In short, learn the role of a billionaire.

    Warning, this is an illegal tip, please do not copy it - learn a decent profession instead.
     
  2. UTiLiTY

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    Thanks for the heads up!
     
  3. Smeghead

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  4. Radio

    Radio Audiosexual

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    Please form a complete sentence so that I can understand you. My crystal ball for seeing into the future is currently broken.
     
  5. capitan crunch

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    It's not about how much you make anymore. It's about what you don't spend. I estimate that my music has saved me from spending well over a million euros.
     
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  6. Sylenth.Will.Fall

    Sylenth.Will.Fall Audiosexual

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    There is only one thing stopping me from making money from my music.. It's crap!
     
  7. Somnambulist

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    The question musicians should be asking is how much in royalties for music they made do they get compared to before online streaming and video and A.I services.

    The agencies like ASCAP, APRA, AGICOA, JASRAC, SAMRO, SACEM, SGAE, PLS, PRS ....etc...etc.. who all used to be on the side of collecting and protecting musicians, actors and artists, could have done something about SPOTIFY etc, music theft and other unsavory acts. Instead, they collect the pittances everyone is complaining about from the very people who profit from your creations leaving you with a mere average of 1% if you are very lucky. These were the people, now toothless tigers who were supposed to protect you. If you make $35,000 per year from your music then you are probably better off than 90% of the global music population.

    Artists are divided and the predators and extortionists like YouTube, SPOTIFY, Apple Music and others, will always win as long as it stays this way. Part of the issue is that anyone born after 1990 never saw the industry how it was supposed to function.
    I know several supposedly famous people who get less than 5% in royalties compared to what they used to get.

    How much does anyone make from music monthly? If you are not already employed writing for a film company, game company, documentary film maker, advertising company or agency that produces music for money, then you are probably making sweet fuck all. I hate to say it but it is almost an oxymoronic, moot question.

    P.S. While some people think $35K is good for a year, it is not. You can make the same cleaning toilets for a living. What does that tell you. :facepalm:
     
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  8. UTiLiTY

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    Music has never been anything but criminal. It's a dead end.
     
  9. Radio

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    The state or the legislature is also called upon to change the laws in the interests of musicians. America's music and entertainment industry is dominated by lawyers who act in the interests of their financiers.

    The American system, as you aptly described it, is based on violence and is criminal and corrupt at its core.

    Here in Germany, for example, there is the GEMA, which charges if you play music in bars and restaurants. Collect money for it and distribute it to the authors. Public broadcasting (television and radio) is also financed by fees, which means that every German pays EUR 18.38 per month, whether they use the program or not is irrelevant.

    As of July 1, 2024, GEMA will distribute 236 million euros to its members and sister societies in the television and radio sectors for the 2023 financial year. But it is declining because advertising revenues have fallen!
     
  10. Somnambulist

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    It's almost on the right track. Far better than a lot of countries now.

    The way it used to work was any establishment that played music that was not their own, whether a live band, radio or other, had to pay royalties annually to their respective country royalty agency. This also meant if hairdressers, supermarkets etc had any music, jukebox even, they had to pay. Not any more in too many countries. They used to enforce it but for some reason they don't anymore :(
     
  11. Radio

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    Then you have to sue for your rights! It may of course be that the rule of law has cracks or is failing.

    The following text block is from GEMA: www.gema.de/en/music-creators/royalties/international

    GEMA repertoire is used all over the world. In order to compensate our members for this use of music, GEMA is linked to foreign collecting societies through a network of so-called reciprocal agreements. They ensure that rights are granted and exercised on both sides. As a result, as a member you receive payments for the use of your works abroad via GEMA. You can find out how we distribute licensing income in this area under Foreign countries.
     
  12. Incontro

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    The issue of making money is like the issue of death. We all know that we are going to die one day, but there is nothing we can do and we are forced to accept this bitter reality.
    Money is the same. We all see the issue of injustice, but we have to surrender to this injustice, because in the true sense, the music economy is not in our hands and is managed by other people.

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    After analyzing the problem, take action?
    I've written so much about it that I have the feeling that you haven't understood it at all or learned from it.
     
  14. Somnambulist

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    Your motives are good. People can only do one thing, choose to take information in or not and nobody other than the individual can make that choice.
    What any of us know or perhaps believe we know, is only of any use to people who seek that information. It makes nobody better or worse by taking it onboard or not, only makes each of us different. :)
     
  15. Radio

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    Communication is only possible among like-minded people!
     
  16. Incontro

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    If you have looked at other sectors of the economy, there are several stages in every economic activity:
    1- Production stage
    2- Pricing stage
    3- Distribution stage
    These three are the most important stages. In the case of artistic activities such as music, the pricing and distribution parts are not in the hands of the artist. The artist produces something and then hands it over to the distributor. It is the distributor who sets the price for the products and sells them. Despite the expansion of social networks and direct access of listeners to the artist, the aforementioned economic model still stands. In this model, the producer suffers the most losses. This model is still the strongest model and has had problems from the beginning. In this model, the producer has the least profit and income.
     
  17. Radio

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    It is also important to note that there are market prices, and you have to sell large quantities otherwise it won't be profitable.
    Skip the middleman and buy directly from the producer. Or start your own label.

    Remember, the bank always wins. Also remember that the entrepreneur also bears the lower risks. Of course, if he makes a profit, everything is fine, but if he makes a loss, everything is bad.
     
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