Is this a throwback? Emulator X

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  1. scguy83

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    Very true this indeed, all of this. Catchy vocals and you got a banger.
     
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    Oh wow lol. I would feel like if I used someones sample or preset with zero tweaking, I'd feel like it's not "my sound" because then anyone could use the exact same. I'm sure if you are familiar with preset packs etc. you have heard that exact sound on a radio hit. Kyle Beats actually confronted the producer of The MexicanOT - Johnny Dang because he used their sample pack and used the exact same melody and loop LOL. He was like WTF my boy made that shit lol, then he got paid.

     
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    most, if not all; of those e-mu sample libraries were made by pros. They were sold by E-Mu. For more "loop" types of stuff, most of them got put into Recycle first. It would use hitpoint detection to insert slice points, or it can also be done manually. Then a playback Midi file was generated which would play back those slices exactly how the original loop was arranged. When the sliced loop then gets transmitted to the sampler as one-shots, each slice can be automatically placed mapped across the controllers keyboard. They can be played back the same as original, or the midi can be edited to change the playback order like any normal midi data. Or a copy of the entire loop can be put on each key of the controller. I think Serato Sample may be the closest current product with similar workflow. Or Logic Drum Machine Designer in versions 10.5 and later.

    Their push to do this software sampler maybe even contributed to the company's demise. You should look on Reverb.com instead of eBay for old hardware, imo. When you do a buy/sell transaction with someone, the seller is not paid until the buyer gets the item. You can get a good amount of model-specific sales data from Reverb.
     
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    In the Internet Archive you can find both E-MU Emulator X3 x86 and x64 (standalone and VST2) and there is no longer any need to mess with serial numbers or the need to authorize it online cause they are pre-activated versions. In the same site you can find also Proteus VX free to download and tons of libraries for both Emulator and Proteus. I've installed some time ago E-MU Emulator X3 x64 and works perfectly both standalone and VST2 in Cubase 14. Despite the age the sounds are incredibly fresh and inspiring (in my opinion) considering also the very small size of the libraries.
     
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    Safe nice one for reply, I worked it out on my end anyway,Because I use it in crossgridder I tried it again after not trying it for a while, and it was still hiding behind the gui.but in crossgridder there is a always on top windows setting, I tried it with that off and every popup window came to the front so it fixed it.
     
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    After watching some videos by the founders of E-Mu and having lived through the times and the transistions. I think the demise of E-Mu was 2 fold.

    1. The electronic synthesiser market was in constant flux as many new technologies were developed, some sold huge, and some bankrupted companies. E-mu designed intergrated circuit chips to produce unique sounds and capabilities, this is expensive when compared to writing software.

    2. E-Mu was acquired by Creative Labs, the maker of SoundBlaster Audio cards for the windows pc's. In an acquistion, the company buying the other company wants the intellectual property of the company being bought, Creative Labs rolled the tech into their sound cards, and abandoned further developement. E-Mu became a software company as it was cheaper and faster to emulate the intergrated circuits in software than to pay a fab to build them in silicon. Thus Emulator X was born and if it was a huge sucess it probably would have carried on, but the market became saturated with samplers and synths, hardware and software and Creative Labs, shut the company down because thats what management companies do, mismanage their assetts because they get paid more for laying people off, as mad as that might seem to normies.

    So E-mu disappeared and Emulator-X was their last big product.

    Creative Labs now sells headphones under the E-mu brand, is that a kick in the teeth or what?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mu_Systems

    https://midi.org/dave-rossum-emu-and-rossum-electro

    https://emu.com/
     
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    Whenever I hear the word E-MU I have positive thoughts. The color of E-MU always appealed to me. NordLead with its brutal red, on the other hand, didn't. Traffic lights and road signs are red - it's a warning color. At some point there was a company where you could buy adhesive film for synthesizers and cover them up.

    Rose Tattoo lives up to its name!!! All of them are tattooed, which shocked society in 1987.

    Rose Tattoo - Rock N Roll Outlaw - Countdown Australia - 1978
     

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    Couldn't agree more. While I also, of course, use Kontakt I have used and still use Emu X3. So it's old?? So is my guitar should I dump that too?? It suits my work flow and the sounds are great. It's easy to make custom libs, (.exb's), that load VERY quickly. It's my go to for live performance with my Fishman Triple Play equipped MIDI guitar.
     
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    A little bit off, but close. According to Dave, Creative was very supportive of EMU. They certainly needed the tech because the Sound Blaster was getting eaten alive by plenty of other choices back in the 486/early Pentium days. Creative bought them in 94/95, and bankrolled the entire EIV lineup. The only reason E-Mu was killed off was because they were too late into the software market. I remember the EMU sound cards, but by the time they put those out, there were already so many other longer established choices on the market for pro audio. They had no idea how to keep up now that their bread and butter all went software and they were left behind. Their sound cards were just fancier SB Live's basically, so that didnt help either. The only reason to really buy one was if you were broke or REALLY wanted that Emulator X since the first couple versions used the hardware as the copy protection. Even when they opened it up with v3, it was too late. Kontakt ruled the game by then. Before that it was Gigasampler doing all the damage.

    You mean you don't like those fancy teak headphones?? :rofl:
    I feel so sad every time I run across the EMU homepage nowadays hah.
     
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    Yeah I watched 3 0r 4 videos of Rossum last night as it peaked my interest, He said it was his choice, as he was (among other things) an electronic designer, and didn't want to get into the plugin business which was where the music equipment biz was heading, also Creative Labs was having financial problems being sued by apple and a couple other companies and so E-Mu was shutdown to save money and Rossum started working on designing cell phone chips for a few years.

    Now he is building EuroRack gear, and designing sound chips

    he's even got a module that has a further exploration of the Z-plane filters



    he's also built a re-issue of the SP1200 drum machine

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    Rossum Electro-Music Morpheus // Stereo Z-plane filter

     
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    Maybe E-MU could have survived if they had entered the groovebox market using the legacy of the SP1200 like Akai did with the MPC. But I think they were aiming for a brand that would be loved by true professionals, and they weren't interested in lo-fi like hip hop or jungle.

    Creative gave up on E-MU because Sound Blasters stopped selling well. Sound Blasters stopped selling well because computers became more powerful and computers no longer needed built-in MIDI synths and effects for game music and sound effects. So the reason is similar to when E-MU discontinued hardware samplers with the arrival of soft samplers.

    I like loading early 90s presets like Proteus 1 on the emulator x3. It's very gritty.
     
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    and the Emulator x3 can still sample and mangle samples like a real Emulator II, of course it has a lot more its like if they built a workstation version of the Emulator II, its the closest thing to an Emulator III but in software..
     
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    This was a first MIDI interface (USB1.0 - MME, DirectMusic and CoreMIDI supported) No longer available:

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    Emulator X3 is similar to EIV, not EII or EIII. X3 can actually read EIV format files without conversion. Synthesis structure and filters are almost the same.
     
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    isn’t this the only Soft.Sampler that actually samples:disco:
     
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    Hardware is expensive and breaks at some point, all E-MU samples will survive and will probably be usable forever.
    That's the nice thing about digital samples, they don't break.

    E-MU F.o.r.e.v.e.r
     
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    There are plenty, but these days something like TX16WX does the job very well.
     
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    I'm still holding out hope for Akai to either release a follow-up to the Z8 or release a software Z8, I'm sure they're about to, any day now </milhouse>
     
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    its one of the few...

    also if you have a pc with a pcie card slot

    E-mu made a soundcard with a breakout box that has very good specs,

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    it has phono preamp/eq curve so you can sample vinyl directly from turntable....

    https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/emu-1616m

    I think they made one with midi (5pin din) ports the 2020m
     
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    What!! OMG!! I can't believe this!! This is ground breaking news! Producers are using sounds from keyboards and loops from sample CD's? EVERYONE STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING...We need to get the word out immediately! Wait...and you actually found the exact keyboard patch that used? WOW!!! That's amazing! How did you ever figure that out? You must be a musical genius and have incredible ears!!
     
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