Which DAW will take over the market?

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  1. BlackHawk

    BlackHawk Platinum Record

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    MyDaw will completely take over 100% of the market.

    Next week I will start to programm it.
     
  2. Smeghead

    Smeghead Rock Star

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    Can't wait!
     
  3. S.T.A.

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    I remember when Studio 1 came out. I was tempted to try it, but had already adapted to & loved FL Studio quite a bit to bother. Is it really that good, or what does it have/do that FL doesn't/can't?
     
  4. dylan63819

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    Yes!?.. I think you just need to replace the original images with any images you want!
     
  5. Skeletor

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    I can't answer that one, someone who has worked in both will have to, I've used Studio One but not FL Studio
     
  6. eXACT_Beats_

    eXACT_Beats_ Audiosexual

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    Call me crazy, but I think this lil' guy could take over the world someday... :dunno:

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  7. Colin

    Colin Producer

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    I'm not going to comment ...

    1 bottle of Shiraz red wine later ....

    never have I ever wondered about a particular DAW.

    Cubase is my DAW of choice because I came through the Atari ST scene back in the day.

    The choice of DAW isn't important.

    What matters is that it works for you.

    And ultimately it's all about creativity & technical proficiency, not technical specs.
     
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  8. S.T.A.

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    "I can't answer that one, someone who has worked in both will have to, I've used Studio One but not FL Studio.''

    No probs. Might have to see for myself eventually, being it that it consolidated as an effective one all these years. Back then I thought it was probably just another DAW perhaps in its lacking infancy stage, & not worth the hassle. For the record, people hate on FL out of ignorance or just straight elitism. There hasn't been a single genre of Music that I've wanted to make, impossible to get done on it so far. The whole moronic shtick about No SeRiOuS music produced on it, is hilarious, trite & played out. It also has extremely capable native VSTs & FX, which is always a plus. Any who, this debate on Da BeSt DAW has been going forever & it's always the same predictable nonsense.
     
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  9. Balisani

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    I love RADAR - I was introduced to it by their distributor/reseller in 1994. Everyone complained about the bugs then (for several years - in comparison to Soundscape, btw), but the audio quality was excellent and I loved the tape style remote.

    But RADAR is not a DAW. It's a cool, great digital recording device, yes, and it's even got a display now (not initially if memory serves), but a DAW it is not. It's the W of Workstation where it falls short, and as such does not belong in the conversation, nor does it warrant your condescending tone.
     
  10. Balisani

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    Doesn't require Apollo hardware anymore - correct. Haven't paid attention these last couple of years. I have several Apollos, so no deal breaker of UA interface owners. Not really a deal breaker technically speaking, it's like saying Samplitude isn't a great or valid DAW because it doesn't run on OS X. Kinda mixing apples and oranges. It's an excellent and still evolving and likely future great DAW.
     
  11. Incontro

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    FLS, Live and some others are for hobbyists who only want to have fun.
     
  12. Incontro

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    The choice of tool is very important. Each tool is good for a certain thing. Most of the nonsense songs you hear are produced in DAWs that have a low-level view of music. DAWs direct users' tendencies towards specific productions.
    If you use an inappropriate tool for work, the final product will be affected by that tool. Tools change the tastes and spirit of artistic products and can enhance or diminish them.
     
  13. FrankPig

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    The point being Luna is currently (and bafflingly) incomplete for anyone who uses outboard hardware, whether you own a UA interface or not. Obviously it's no issue if you mix completely ITB.
    Once I/O is implemented, I'll probably give Luna a spin.
     
  14. taskforce

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    Since it has its own (optional) software front end where you can rec and edit audio i will insist it does qualify for the W. And btw, so does the now extinct but big bang for your buck back then, Ensoniq Paris, also not mentioned.
    My tone maybe as such, but you may consider it as much condescending as much authoritarian is yours mate. Don't get me wrong, i like your approach about the workflow, as i agree with a lot you say here. But don't you think there is a possibility many of us here might 've been there too? Like back in the day etc etc... You sound like you came to a class of 19 year old fresh college kids to teach them something that they haven't yet grasped. If that's not the case, i humbly apologize in advance and stand corrected, np.
    Cheers
    PS: Your mentioning of Soundscape got me remembering lots of forgotten memories. As i was browsing and reminiscing of late 90s early 2ks i stumbled across this, and perhaps there is something more cooking? We 'll see if there's something new or just a revival of the old:
    http://ensoniq.ca/
     
  15. Slavestate

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    Funny how I've seen professional musicians using Ableton both on stage and in studio while your basement dwelling dumbass is still here doing nothing.
     
  16. MassesAreAsses

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    "The market".... who gives a damn about the market... only a stockholder.
     
  17. Incontro

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  18. Balisani

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    RADAR doesn't offer MIDI and Audio integration. There's no support for audio plugins or virtual instruments and libraries. It's not a DAW - you can proclaim otherwise, but that's just not going to change that it's a 'just' a random access recorder/editor. The little GUI attempt is not exactly groundbreaking, or DAW-qualifying. Not even close, and definitely no W.

    My tone was not (or at least no meant to be) condescending. I was just quickly typing, jotting down thoughts and memories - exactly what tone should I have employed in your opinion? That said, who between the two of us was the lead designer of a professional digital audio multi-track software editor, deployed on 17,000+ professional sites worldwide (including China) in the 90s and 2000s? I'll wait.

    Perhaps that's where the authority that you sensed came from. But again: my professional track record, my professional experience. I can't erase them when I formulate my thoughts and perspective, can I - but any words in particular you objected to, please feel free to quote and replace herein to illustrate. I'm all ears (and humble enough) to better myself. Hopefully you are too. Cheers.
     
  19. Skeletor

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    I've been trying out LUNA for a couple of weeks now, coming from PT, it's like a breath of fresh air with the PT key commands, I'm on the windows version and have discovered a couple of bugs, but nothing too concerning, it needs a few things like hardware inserts and a few others, but overall I think it has the possibility to be a gamechanger for a lot of folks interested in a new DAW, I'm probably going to switch over myself, PT isn't worth the effort anymore to me, I'd might stick with it if there was a scene release, but that's not happening anytime soon.....plus I have an apollo and it integrates well with LUNA.
     
  20. taskforce

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    Well. I dunno where you got your standards from. But the bare necessity standards in all pro's book are two. Multi-track recording/playback/bounce and non-destructive editing. As a rule of thumb anything that has these two qualifies as a workstation.
    Everything else is secondary. I mean, even Roland's DM80 8track from '92 qualifies as a workstation.
    RADAR doesn't have midi or V.I. but has a hardware midi sync option. And neither did Soundscape have any virtual instruments or MIDI integration. At least afaik it relied on external sync, you may correct me if am mistaken np. It did have some third plugins, i recall at least a couple from TC. Also you can say Soundscape on the soft editing side was more sophisticated but that's about it.
    My bottom line, if the latter qualifies for ws so does Radar and Paris too.
    Whatever else you say about Radar's GUI and such is just your own attempt to justify your point and -imho- superficially reduce its value as a usable tool. Facts mate not opinions. Fact is Radar is still around (and Soundscape is not). Surely not because of its software side but that's irrelevant, in the sense that if there's nothing else around software wise, it can do the basics, end of story.
    Onto the next topic, since you have a title as the lead designer of a crazy good and/or widespread soft, kudos mate because i definitely don't. What i do have though, during the course of my ever-so-procrastinating-absolutelynotprolific-ganja-smoking life, is 50+ albums and 100+ singles & EPs produced. I 'll spare you the rest of my activities. Now you can tell me in return if this track number entitles my non-lead-designer self to express my experiences as a professional. :)
    So, personally, i don't think there's something in particular you need to change man. Anything i have to say, i will speak my mind upfront and i already did when i noticed something that i wasn't entirely agreeing with. If anything, i respect the expertise but i also like a healthy argumentative confrontation as well. Verbal polemics can be my thing but i prefer hard cold facts over any polished descriptions etc.
    So nothing about your character as a person that strikes me badly, from what you wrote there, you are most welcome and thanks for your contribution.
    Cheers
     
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