I use 10.4 every day. No bugs I am aware of, that impact what I use it for. Like this problem Ableton seems to have for multiple versions with Latency compensation of tempo based effects? It doesn't do that with internal effects or external hardware latency compensation even.
The only problems with 10.4 are what is not there. What I am saying though, is I do not see how this is a real question asked by any Mac user who has had a machine long enough to have Logic 10.2 on their own computer. How did that copy get there, osmosis? It came from an installer or from App store. You would know that if you paid for Logic, you would be able to get old versions somehow.

I am sticking with my original use of "spurious". This is like saying you are a Scientologist, and asking who L Ron Hubbard is. You could at least get your story straight.

 

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I get it, you brought that all up, I just debunked that rumor you have repeating about non legit Logic having some glitches legit ones doesn't and pointing out obvious thing that except from moral right thing to do, he isn't getting better experience or official support either way.

 

Best decision!

 

Please do not lie about things that I did not do. You debunked yourself. Directing this discussion to topics that you brought up the way you refer to it now. Let us make it clear: I did not ask for pirate versions, I was asking about the process how it works in App Store now. Members here tried to force the conversation to the direction of pirate editions, I clearly expressed I don't want them this time. Why is that so difficult to understand?

Don't try to refer to this topic as if it was titled by me: "Pirate Logic has glitches". I did not claim anywhere pirate Logic has glitches. I only commented that "and you know sometimes those pirate editions have glitches". If you did not understand what I meant by that, don't worry, I debunk my comment for you: Not specifically Logic, but pirate editions in general. Clear now? Just let me know, I help you further if not, even though this topic is about App Store and Logic from it, but who cares now...

 

For anyone else who is searching for an answer for the question I asked initially:

I was notified meanwhile, when you buy Logic it refers to the license of 10.0 -11.1 in App store. So when you want to download it to an older machine even today, it will download the Logic X on that, not offering the new Logic Pro only. So that part works. Someone verified it, App store installed 10.4 for him even today. How you purchase it is a different story, of course you can't do that on an old machine, the purchase needs to happen on a new one but we had a clue about that already.

 

Look brother, you keep blowing this out of proportion, first you answered with wall of text about things I didn't even touch upon, like why would anyone use older system or older Logic and now you accuse me of lying...

So this is the quote I was replying at

In nutshell, you wanted to keep the version official for him, because if there's some issues, he can contact Apple for assistance, my answer is that Apple isn't going to help him either because in their eyes he's using outdated system and version and only assistance from them might be to tell him to update everything.

I understand what you mean by some pirated, but in case of Logic, that isn't the case, so again, there will be no issues in that regard, so my answer is more in line, if this is what keeps you from just downloading non legit version, you don't have much to worry about, because he isn't going to encounter non official glitches and he isn't going to get support either way.

Think I'm more then clear on this, I'm really not advising him or you to use non legit version or have issue with doing the right thing, so your only reasoning at this point is from moral ground, but other then that, using non legit version in this case will give him same experience as legit one.

So please stop telling me I don't understand and gaslighting me constantly, we both understand each other pretty well, if you don't see how my response is on point with what I quoted, then just drop it at this point.

Wish both all the luck with this.

 

I am not blowing this out of proportion. Please read again, I emphasize almost in all of my posts by now that I don't want pirate editions. Yet we still return to it again and again. Can you understand simply I do not care about pirate editions in this case? How many times shall I repeat? 100 times?

And though I tried to reflect to it in many ways, but let me describe it the straight way then, seeing you don't understand my views on this: no matter if a pirated copy of Logic is flawed or not, you are not a reference point in this for me to rely on for decision. Understand now? So maybe you debunked things here, first: it was an unnecessary effort, because I did not even want a pirate version, secondly, because if I need views on pirated software it won't be you whom I will turn to for advices. And not because of your repeating irrelevant, unmentioned aspects here directing the flow of discussion away from the initial question, but because I wouldn't have anyway, apart from this topic.

Secondly, where did you read about that any of us wants support from Apple? Please paste here where I referred to anything like that? Can you please do so before further spinning the wheel?

You are misleading the readers again with such comments, because I never included in my requests here that by purchasing Logic I expect support from Apple. Me I don't. The fact that my friend has problems and asks me is one thing, and to ask Apple is another. The two scenario has nothing to do with each other. Read it again, I never expected the support from Apple by purchasing, if you concluded that, it is your own speculation. I referred to possible glitches of pirated software, don't know if it is in Logic, but if anything is there, I won't be able to help my friend. That's it. The factory bugs in Logic is a whole different thing, I am aware of that, but even for those we won't turn to Apple, it is just your misunderstanding that we want to. No. No pirate editions, thank you for debunking but don't care, and I have been working with the buggy factory version of Logic X for a decade, it will be good for us, this outdated version on an outdated computer. We tried, it will be good for the purpose, even if you find it a big sensation.

 

All good my brother.

 

Logic 11 was a free full version upgrade for Logic Pro X owners. I have been using my existing license since about 2014 or so. I'm not telling mr. audiophile OP in this thread to use an old version easily found on torrent websites; because that is not what he asked about, but also because that could be viewed as a request . He should already know how easy it is to find old software, paid or not. All you'd really need to figure that out is Google, which is again why I called this "spurious"; as are most threads created by Foster or his impersonators.

I fully expected Logic Pro 11 to be a paid update version since it is a new full version number. The last paid update was to Logic Pro X from v9 in 2013. I do not think it is "lifetime" like FL Studio. It is for the entire life of the version you buy, for certain. Ten years is close enough, and 11 is a free update to Pro X customers. Dropping the "X" from the software title likely wasn't without a reason, but they are in no way hitting up their customers like some other developers do. It's pretty safe to bet the version of Logic you buy may outlive the Mac buy it for.

With all that said, not many users in this neck of the woods are choosing their DAWs because of the price. A couple of months ago, I helped a user recover their Kontakt v2 work from an old Macbook Pro. Finding Logic 10.x is about 1 minute of work, if that is the route you pick.

 

Can not but agree here.

Me: legit Logic user, still pirate for older devices. Am fine with that.

 

13th May 2024 = Apple releases Logic Pro 11

Technological progress is passing you by. Don't you want to be part of it? You're struggling through life with a faulty version.
Get out of the Stone Age and into the modern age. Take a few dollars and jump on the train of technological progress.

P.S.: By the way, for people who are very poor, the teams will crack the software for you.

 

a Witch says Which is Witch?

 

You seem to be very bored here, because one thing I noticed recently is that when someone asks something, you don't mind directing to flow of discussion to several different routes other than the initial question.

BUT: excuse me if this comment will be a bit harsh. I don't know you, you maybe a big expert. I don't deny you can be. But even so I have to make the following comment: how can you ask such questions? Did you yourself use Logic X? I guess yes, but maybe not. Could it do a recording in 2015 properly when you pressed Rewind, then R then Record? Could you repeat that several other times? Could you then apply some basic plugins, like Chorus, Delay, EQ, Reverb? Could you then press Render and enjoy the track? Did Logic crash while doing so? This I outlined are basic features that even the Logic 1.0 could do I guess. There are features that don't change by time. So what are we talking about here? I saw from your comments you have great knowledge about audio stuff, I admire that. But what I just simply cannot understand is that how can such clever people ask such questions, when they know NOT every user use Logic for the same purposes, and even if things change during versions, basic core features are standard, and are independent of version number in terms of productivity. I just can't get how someone like you doesn't consider it when asking such things. For my friend even Logic 8 would do, but the problem is he cannot open Logic X projects on that. Yes, of course, he could open any project with the newest Logic, the only problem is you should give him some money for a computer to run that Logic. I guess you don't feel like doing so, so until then, all that I can do is to take the machine we have at hand, install the Logic I know and that will be suitable, and use it. I described all this, however I cannot believe you could not conclude it yourself. It is not rocket science.

 

You sound like a woman on period. Getting more furious with every other comment. Get it easy brother. They all are trying to help. Whatever the comment be, they didn't have any bad intention. If you don't find it useful, just leave. No need to insult them.

 

Logic 5.5.1-OxYGeN for Windoze crew checking in.

 

Hello Sono, just write a few paragraphs and it will be easier to read.
I expected you to react like that because you always react like that.

Just accept that we have different opinions about something. Believe me, you don't have enough knowledge for psychoanalysis.
I actually can't talk to you because communication is only possible between like-minded people.

Now you're coming up with the stupid idea that I should give him money for something new. Stop telling me about Logic, I don't know anything about Logic and macOS. You can tell when you start sentences with: I absolutely can't understand why you're saying this and that...! I don't like talking to you, a collection of prejudices, your wording: How can you say something like that?

I wrote it and thought something about it, just accept a different opinion, I have the impression that parts of society are a bit irrational. People always think they're right...!

Organize a solidarity party for your friend and collect a little money, then give it to your friend for a modern DAW that he can work with. Invite your friend to AudioSexPro and have him write a few lines.
Apple - Logic Pro 4+ Professional music production now costs 229.99 €.
If you don't have any money please install this version: Apple Logic Pro X v10.8.1 macOS TNT - Dec 2023

 

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The problem is that you have not different opinions, but you are directing the flow of discussion away from the topic to totally irrelevant and childish fields in a contemptuous way. And you did that in case of my other post as well, when you replied at a stage when what you included in the reply was ruled out. You wanted to get on the train when it was already gone, and when you complained about it you were surprised I don't care. I don't mind if you comment to my posts, but if you do so, why not addressing my original question then, or follow what we already concluded and add to that? For me that is called a constructive discussion, not what you are doing. And then people are surprised when I skip what you comment. Your approach is a kind of mosquito approach, that people have problems, but you sting them even more to have more problems besides the original problems. I asked how you can download Logic to a computer with El Capitan recently. Can you comment to that? If not, don't you mind if I am not interested, because what I want to know: how to install Logic on El Capitan? I am not interested in how to install Logic 11.1 on a new computer.

I don't mind if you still comment further on my posts, I can tell you I skip them like I skipped it in the previous thread, but just for the sake of readers I made my notice because I simply just can't believe how people can repeat things on and on when it is not related to the situation anyhow. Read the comments before, I mentioned in our situation we can consider even Logic X up to date, but yet you come back playing the professor and recommending to upgrade. And all this, after I noted it was already sorted out, App store still can install the version I need. What's the use of it then, from your side? I repaired the car but you still comment how to repair it. What's the logic in this approach, can you tell? This is something I would be really interested in. You commented so many things already. Can you comment this particular question?

 

You misunderstood the point completely. It is not about being a women on period. It is about that in my library, being able to press Rewind/Record/Stop/Create New in Logic 11.1 is not a synonym of technical advancement, when you could do that in Logic 1.0 as well (I guess). I was surprised Radio considers it like a technical advancement, I wanted to note I find it odd. That's all.

 

Its not modified, you're over thinking it