There's no such thing as "my mix sounds bad on cheap consumer speakers but not on HiFi speakers". Or your mix sounds good everywere or it's a bad mix. Translation is a concept that EVERY PERSON that is mixing seriously gotta have in mind and work on to get better. Its not simple and people are putting a lot of effort to make their mixes translate well on overall speakers. For me you're just blaming the cheap speakers for your lack of competence on doing your work. Or you got a cognitive bias toward your "HiFi" speaker environment that doesn't let you apreciate anything outside that environment.

I quit. There's few things that annoys me more than a person asking for help and acting like knows everything and mistreating people that are trying to help.

 

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If you are feeling to quit it is your fault. I have replied to all these concerns you raised, showd examples. Instead of considering them, you skip everything I described and presented, and reset the topic to repeating the professional not professional stuff. I am not professinal, so I came here to ask for help. But excuse me if I skip aspects that had been ruled out.

We can continue the debate on whether a mix that sounds good on one type of sytem but not on another is a bad mix or nőt. However before continuing that again, I suggest you to listen to songs like: I have the touch by Péter Gabriel (album version) on quality HiFi and then on a cheap desktop speaker. Or a professionally mastered recording of one of the contrabass masters where they play solo. If you will still have the opinion that a mix that sounds good on the HiFi but not on Low end stuff is a bad mix, then Just come Back and start again that debate and I will consider it legit. Yes, most music can be made to sound good on all stuff, like the solo voice of a piccolo or soprano singer, but not áll music includes those.

Anyway if you followed the topic you May know why I am here. At the moment the question is: how you make the youtube version of the song that I liked more quality equipment friendly. Instead of mentionning things like room problem and such stuff that had been ruled out, it would be much more useful to focus on the recent status of the problem and solve that. I mentioned I let the HiFi mix go for the purpose of streaming, nő use repeating the room thing and professional not professional stuff. The situation now is well beyond that.

 

No -> there's no Single Button Push solution in your Hi-Fi..

Next!

You're just not listening.
you're very fixated in what you've got/know and refuse to listen or think about anything new..

Also it seems you deem the "Professional" approach to be some kind of baseless distraction,
you want Hi-Fi solutions..

Meanwhile we're just talking about very Basic audio stuff,
Check Loudness, Filter this, Compress that.. if you could only listen

 

I wrote it not for you personally. May be someone else will find it useful.

May be, an audience is the answer? People don't listen such music on HiFi systems. And people don't mix for this target. If you want to work with such music mix it "properly", without using HiFi. What should you use? I don't know.

 

Better visit a HiFi forum and discuss with other "audiophiles" and not musicians or studio guys.

 

Maybe try something in between a mobile and a hifi system to find a good compromise.
Cratives Pebble v2 are my goto for 'small speaker'. Below that I just don't care. Mobiles can sound so very different, so...
When you adapt the mix for a narrow band system like that, don't touch frequencies it can't show. So for 'more treble' don't go for the shelf, rather go for a bell. Same with low Fs. When you are done check back with the hifi. It should sound more in your face, a little less 'good'. But it should not sound annoying. Something else I like for checking are JBLs control one pro. I'm always like "If it's not fun to listen to on control ones, it sucks". Maybe you know someone that has some (in his attic?) or some used ones, maybe broken ones that need resicking? (it's no witchcraft).

 

Thanks trying something like that!