A question about sister site, DMCA takedowns and life

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by triggerflipper, Nov 19, 2024 at 9:47 AM.

  1. triggerflipper

    triggerflipper Audiosexual

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    Hi y'all,

    The other day I was looking for IK Multimedia's Sunset Reverb on my plugin setup drive, and was horrified that I'd deleted it.

    Not being one who takes two seconds to reflect upon the potential reasons why I'd deleted it (didn't find it useful? felt claustrophobic in their 360 degree vocal booth pictures?), I went on sister site to give it another shot, and to my extreme disappointment, found out it was no longer available.

    DMCA takedown? Fine. Companies are allowed to be jerks.

    However, there were tons of other IK plugins, readily available, different versions of the same plugins, instruments, sample libraries...

    Went on that Russian site -same thing.

    So it got me wondering why ONE plugin from a company gets a takedown request while others are up and running?

    Is it Sunset Sound who said "IK, we love you, you're our brothers and sisters, but don't let our brand be soiled on those godless platforms" ?

    So many questions, so little time to answer..
     
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  3. secretworld

    secretworld Producer

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    LOL, I had a small search cause after a small test run when it came out, I lost interest in it and lo and behold, it is part of T-Racks 6.....
    Mystery solved
    Cheers

    I tried it again, on a dry piano sound, claire, and was amazed it how different the different rooms etc sounded. Thanks for reminding!
     
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  4. PROMUSICAUDIO

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    this is the reason i always save my plugins on harddrives , pendrives , cloud so i dont have to depend on companies to make music
     
  5. triggerflipper

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    D'oh, I forgot T-Racks includes the separate plugins :suicide: Thanks !
     
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  6. secretworld

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    Me tooooo but I am used to that at 62. Much to much unused shit you forget about after a while. Like what was the name of that plugin I used once 10 years ago. Most of the time I do remember the look.
     
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    Question still stands though : why do SOME plugins by a company get taken down, while others remain?
     
  8. Radio

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    They are only removed if the DMCA reports it and then they are removed immediately. If none of the manufacturers reports the copyright infringement to the DMCA, the DCMA will not take action. I think the companies' workload is so great that they just let it go. Or it is in progress and the DCMA cannot issue warnings to everyone.
     
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    takedowns are often (usually?) not handled by the companies themselves but are outsourced to companies who provide this as a service.
    it may be as simple as them being behind in paying/between providers, a script/algorithm/AI failing on a particular combination of words, the site being down when they tried, or a million other reasons, but these days I'd vote bad AI
    it's great computers fail as often as they do so us IT can have jobs
     
  10. BlackHaze1986

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    Are you sure there was a single Release of the Reverb Plugin on Sister Site?

    Maybe you just mixed things up and installed it from an T-Racks Bundle back than.
     
  11. clone

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    You make it sound like DMCA is an agency or something, like Interpol. Are you trolling now too? The DMCA is a US copyright law. The request to remove the material is sent from the copyright holders or one of their representatives. It is a notification of a claim of infringement. In the case of user supplied material, the website or service has a short period of time to remove the content, or make it inaccessible. If it is not, the copyright owner can proceed with other options they may or may not have.
     
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    It's not about the behaviour of various devs but about one dev and his various plugins. Jeez.
     
  13. Radio

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    First of all, I answered @triggerflipper's question directly:
    Question still stands though: why do SOME plugins by a company get taken down, while others remain?
    The answer is actually "WE DON'T KNOW" or better yet @clone answer his question.

    The DCMA sounds harmless but if you don't allow the deletion, they put the platform where they are under pressure, because everyone knows that you end up in court with a judge and a charge and that will probably be expensive. Every platform would rather delete their account than deal with the DMCA.

    I myself had to deal with the DMCA twice, supposedly 2 of my sound sets that I created myself contained copyright infringements. But I couldn't find any copyright infringements.

    My own experience is:

    Case 1: So you get an email where the corresponding sound set is mentioned, then they write that you can make a statement about it within a short period of time. I did that. Nothing happened, no confirmation of receipt and no reply. In the end, MediaFire simply deleted all the sound sets I had on it. No objection possible.

    Case 2: I have an account with KVR as a creator with my sound sets, I received a message from a user saying that he was from the DMCA and that I had committed a copyright infringement in sound set XY, I then deleted the sound set and months later renamed it and uploaded it again. I then blocked the DMCA user on KVR.
     
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