New laptop OS, app and plugin installation strategies

Discussion in 'PC' started by Wowbagga, Oct 3, 2024 at 9:22 AM.

  1. Wowbagga

    Wowbagga Member

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    Hello chaps,
    finally I could afford to buy a new laptop to revamp my home studio.
    Before I start to install software I decided to ask for your guidance for the best practice in installing OS, software, plugins etc.
    My question is more about "what to install and where to install" than "how to". If you point me the general direction I guess I can manage it on my own.
    I will use my laptop both for home recording/mixing and as a guitar amp sim / FX processor on the stage.
    My genre is mostly progressive rock and some experimental stuff.
    My DAW preference is Reaper.
    Hardware: i7-12650, 64 GB RAM, 2 x 2TB M.2 SSD, Nvdia RTX 3050
    USB interface. Audient iD14 Mk1
    I prefer to keep on using Win10
    I will be using Kontakt, EZDrummer, EZKeys, Omnisphere, several soft synths, amp sims/modellers (STL, TH-U, Tonex etc)
    So I need more experienced guidance on where to install VSTs, apps, libraries; where to keep my working files. How to make better use of 2 SSDs. I can add an external SSD via USB-C to bring in more flexibility.
    I am planning to keep this laptop offline and use my older laptop for daily work.

    So I will genuinely appreciate if you can point me the right track.
    Cheers!
     
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  3. fnord23

    fnord23 Ultrasonic

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    I hope both SSDs are connected via nvme?

    They way I do it is to use one SSD for windows and one for my libraries (samples, Kontakt etc, Omnisphere library, my projects and so on).
    IMHO it doesn't make a big difference nowadays performance wise. Plugins will install to partition c anyways. All other programs installed to C also. Only big advantage might be that you can do a windows reinstall without having to move your libraries but I never needed to do that. I'm planing to do a fresh install when the next major version is available here.

    Win 11 is absolutely stable here, never had any issue but's a different topic.
     
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  4. trz303

    trz303 Producer

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    First I'd say DPC latency is the most important thing to check for a laptop.
    I'm using an external SSD because my sample library is pretty big, but if yours fits in internal SDD it's better.
    My advice :
    Internal SSD 1 : set a 512 partition for windows (drive C) and second partition for audio programs 1.5 to
    Internal SSD 2 : use full disk as a single partition and put everything "data" (projects, samples, libraries).

    Win10 will die in one year, Win11 seems more revelant today.
    I think that offline computer is mandatory for stable audio performances (except when you need to validate licences).
     
  5. Wowbagga

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    Yes both SSDs are connected via NVME.
    My concern is about performance loss by the time. I want to also ask shall I move plugins to second SSD using symlink? Or is it unnecessary?
    Also about removing the older software as I update them. Should I use Revo Uninstaller while installing stuff so later I can uninstall them with less junk remaining? Or is it useless?

    I might consider moving to Win11 (thank you for mentioning the stability), as the laptop will be offline no need to worry about telemetry or MS spying.
    Thanks for the reply
     
  6. tzzsmk

    tzzsmk Audiosexual

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    it's a very nice spec!

    with 2 SSDs, I would use one for everything that needs to be "installed" (Windows, programs, drivers etc..) and use second drive for all your data (documents, downloads, libraries, projects - that way wiping+reinstalling Windows would be least painful,
    about apps, I'd definitely suggest some hardware/temperature/fan monitoring like HWinfo, HWmonitor, FanControl so you'd have better idea when performance goes crap for some reason

    not a problem, since you're not buying the latest hardware (2022 cpu, 2021 gpu), Windows 10 should work flawlessly, and you can always go W11 anytime later

    I'd use that also for backups (but be aware SSDs lying in shelf without power for a long time may start loosing data), something like FreeFileSync is convenient reliable way to sync various folders without dedicating entire drive for backup

    better safe than sorry, I'd still install some firewall/filter like NetLimiter, TinyWall or SimpleWall (check differences between those and definitely pick only one), you'll inevitably go online one day
     
  7. fnord23

    fnord23 Ultrasonic

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    I recommend creating a win install USB for an offline version.

    First thing to do after install is SimpleWall and follow some guided to optimize everything for latency and performance.
    Windows is terrible if you don't deactivate all the terrible "features"
     
  8. Wowbagga

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    Yes, I will definitely consider creating two partitions on disk C: . All in all, this 3 partition setup on two disks looks quite reasonable.
    Also this will be a good time to move to Win 11 (later I know I will postpone Win upgrade indefinitely as I prefer a clean install, not an OS upgrade)
    Thank you.
     
  9. Wowbagga

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    Wow, I did not know this. Thanks for the warning :bow:
     
  10. tzzsmk

    tzzsmk Audiosexual

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    there is no reason to do so with SSDs nowadays,
    having two data partitions on system disk will inevitably lead to lack of space on either, without any benefit, and very hard to repartition later,
    you'd save yourself lot of hassle when you just leave one huge C: volume with programs left to default install locations
     
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