It is what i did straight away before anything. Let it boot once to see that it actually works fine and then format the fuck out of it haha. And is what i do with all laptops actually. Brand name vendors put all sorts of bloatware on their laptops. You don't want these, i don't want these, nobody in the power user category wants these. And i hate home edition Windows. So yeah. Fast usb stick with Win10 Pro or Win11 Pro depending your preference and you format the thing from the getgo. I wouldn't try Win7 as (sadly) much of the current soft doesn't support it.
Here's my quick review if you want it since...
The laptop you linked is the same as my laptop only mine is 32gb ram/3060 gpu. After installation (quick format & install is like 3-4 mins with a fast usb stick) and Windows update i only installed the latest Nvidia driver (you don't want MS's driver) and Samsung Magician, nothing else when it comes to devices drivers/control soft. Everything else was working like a breeze.
The laptop can take a second nvme m.2 ssd and can go up to 64gb ram DDR4. Not too shabby right? Both the ram and ssd(s) are very easy to upgrade even if you only have the basic "know how". And you will find detailed videos in YT upgrading this very same laptop so ram & 2nd ssd upgrade is a piece of cake really. And a must for audio work. You need a second ssd in there even if 16gb of ram is enough for you.
I installed a second ssd, a 2tb Samsung 970 Evo Plus right from the beginning. Easiest upgrade i ever did on a brand name laptop. This Legion comes with a pci-e gen3 Samsung drive as system drive that reaches about the same speed as the 970, about 3.0 to 3.5gb/sec, so i knew from the start what to put in there so i have matching speed in both my drives and also the same soft suite (Magician) for both my drives.
Its display is also very good and large @ 17.3" IPS FHD and 144hz, you will enjoy the anti-glare coating, i give it an overall 7.5/10 easily. For DAW work the display gets 8.5/10 as it is one of the most easy on the eye laptop displays ever, only not too bright as it goes up to 300nits.
This Legion 5 has an adequate number of fast usb ports and conveniently most of them are in the back as they should be.
In detail, the back has PSU port, HDMI 2.1, three USB type A ports and one type C, plus a proper Ethernet port. Left side has a type C port and headphone/mic combo mini jack port. Right side has a USB type A and a SD card reader. Type A ports are 5gbps, type C ports are 10gbps. Type C ports can also do Display Port duty with one of them also being a fast charging port for your cellphone/tablet.
Don't be fooled with the 8 hrs battery life they claim. That is with all power savings in place, you don't want these when at home plugged in producing or gaming even. Battery will last about 3 to 3.5 hrs with the display on at full brightness and working on DAW with soft synths and the likes, with the power options from control panel at high performance setting. Lastly it is dead silent, you will hear its fans only when playing premium AAA games. If for some reason there is some fan noise, which i doubt, you can always disable Advanced Thermal Optimization in UEFI settings to make the fans stop when there is no heavy load. But i think its disabled by default after format, i 'll have to check it on mine tomorrow. Lemme know if you want to know this, i 'll pm you.
The only downside is that at ~3 kilos it's heavy but we 're musicians for fuck's sake not journalists and the large screen will always be a plus for me and my wife as well.
Oh, because opinions are like assholes and we all have one, another reason to go for this, but nobody seems to care when they really should as money is not peanuts, Lenovo has the best warranty (and service if needed) from all the big brands.
So there you go, the Ryzen7 5800H Legion 5 17.3" is a winner only a bit more expensive than it should be in 2024 since it's a 2021 machine.
Cheers
PS: It has a sort of hidden SATA port in there too and a very thin maybe aluminum cage that can fit a 2.5" SATA drive. It is nowhere mentioned in the manual or specifications pdf. I found out because you have to unscrew it to get to the second m.2 slot as it sits just on top of it. It was very easy to do so, np with that. I am not sure if populating the second m.2 slot with an SSD disables this SATA port or not and vice versa. I 've yet to find out.

 

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My reply was short for 'looking good, running fine' (severe lazy bugger syndrom, you know? ).

 

at this moment i type while im laying using screenkeyboard .
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questions for me now after knowin ppl run win installs for decades ,is it even firefox trashin itself after intense use ?
ive a hard guess it is so .

besides that :
what broke my java console for this site and recalling tabs in ff ? it appeared right after my rand on ulx and his dupe accounts talkin to himself .fun fact these dupe accounts are silent now and the 2 accounts shortly registred after i lectured ulx a bit on punk/oi music and came with punk/grunge own music feedback threads .
it was easily to determine that the 2 accounts where from the same guy thru naming and naming of the uploaded files (real sarcastic cause he apparently knows the bounderys to keep).That i think it was all ulx is of course just my suspection but i know a bit and learnt a bit of other conversations with another banned guy from az which im 99% sure is someone from 10 years ago .Also i kno from current other users here suspecting ulx havin a dozen accounts on here .I dont droppin names on ulx dupes or the ancient az fraggle cause site apparently dont want it discussed here .I even suspect a nagban fckn with my java console .This or 911 is really deep into it which would then strengthen my suspiction of being 911 is the fraggle too .
sommerhaus der realitystars mal ganz anders

 

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wtf ...kind of cool....hw easteregg

BTW...for a new not used notebook , i would never buy anything than lenovo ....!

 

I'm using my old home PC for multimedia, games, tools, video, audio, surfing, all good, no problems.

 

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but you on opera ...i know it manages tabs with another concept recarding ram . maybe its cause i always using a stupidly shitload of open tabs (they are not open but on hold of course) as kind of bookmarks .
but i think it has nothing to do with the java , also i never had this before .

 

Hey mate. I use strictly Firefox. I do carry Firefox bookmarks/passwords from comp to comp over the years. The Firefox on this i7 pc i use for browsing must have over 600-700 bookmarks easily. And i do the nerdy thing with 20-30 tabs open. But not 100 tabs like some of my crypto-maniac friends do hahaha. I guess the 64gbs of ram on this comp makes it easy, as this used to be my studio daw pc some 7-8 years ago and i never get any hiccups from ff here or notice slow behavior. A couple of times when i had ff slowing down it was my machine fuckin up not ff as i only had one page open. Loading your pc with enough ram is the sane thing to do when on Windows if you like to have lots of tabs open.
Cheers

 

... and FireFoxy - and both open with a bunch of tabs. But as my highly esteemed mate @taskforce already said, that's only a matter of RAM and doesn't come with other side effects.

 

thx for the heads up guys...
lol i dont even dare to tell you im surfing with an old x86 lenovo notebook with maxxed out cpu , it has a 15 screen and must be light weight cause it stands on a board fixed to the wallactually for me still enough power for this tasks
dont wanna buy small screen lightweight notebook for this and have other putters for the other tasks

but i think to remember that you mate taskforce stated once that a x86 machine alone isnt even enough to handle win7 , ram wise...might be true yeah

 

Hey mate. By x86 you probably mean 32bit ? If so there are a few things you can do. .
If it has 2gb of ram and Win7 32bit you are a bit screwed. Not much to do there other than make sure you get rid of all unnecessary background services.
If it has 4 gb and Win7 32bit you can do a few different things. If you dig 32bit Win7 and run some old 32bit synth or whatever, make sure your Win7 does recognize 3gb of ram instead of the typical two. Win7 SP3 has Physical Address Extension (PAE) enabled by default if i recall. Some old shit, Win7 Server 32bit with PAE, i don't remember which version, can use more ram up to 128gb of ram lol. That would be all 4 gb of ram in your system. Your softies though will be limited to 3gb but it will benefit multiple simultaneous processes.
The other and more usual thing to do with 4gb of ram is format and install 64bit Win7 and trim the OS from bitch ass feats as much as possible.
And if you are running on hdd, by all means do yourself a favor and get a cheap but respectable sata ssd. Something like a Crucial MX500 500gb costs about 45 euros. Compared to whatever hdd, it will feel like you got a new pc.
Cheers
PS: And if you are running the typical hdd/dvd-r you can remove the dvd-r (after installation because if it's an old old laptop, it won't support boot from usb) and put the hdd in its place. And then you 'll have 2 drives instead of one.
Cheers

 

wtf
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it has ssd and the pirate semi lite OS

its just for surfing and streaming ,for that its good

 

from around 100-120 on hold open tabs the hick ups begin

 

You should go Win7 x64 Service Pack 3 mate. Then you will have 4gb usable. SP3 because it's the last evolution of Win7 and if you look around, you will find some isos with the very latest builds just before MS stopped support. Don't overlook it, because in a system like that, a 25% ram "upgrade" will do much good. Btw, there was one Win7 x64 SP3 Lite that had all the correct things cut off, but i don't recall which one.
Cheers

 

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via Reuters:

Intel lost out on a contract to design and fabricate Sony’s PlayStation 6 chip in 2022, which dealt a significant blow to its effort to build its fledgling contract manufacturing business. Intel and AMD were the final two contenders in the bidding process for the contract.

(PlayStation 6 with Intel BattleMage? Crazy! Supposedly Intel didn't like the low profit margins (lol). Can you imagine how competitive Intel's GPUs could've been if Intel had been able to tap into Sony's 30 years of practical experience in the field...)

via NASDAQ:

Intel cancels its 20A manufacturing process. The company hopes to save $500 million by waiting for its 18A process to ramp up.

(Makes me think there's a pretty good chance Intel 18A is DoA too)

via Bloomberg:

The chipmaker is reconsidering ongoing fab projects and evaluating various strategic options, including splitting the company into a product and production company.

(Intel would be profitable if they got rid of their foundry business. Though I guess they'd remain entangled with Intel Foundry for the next >5 years, like AMD with GloFo.)

 

This is starting to look like their 14nm manufacturing. It became a meme, I think they used for 6 years minimum. But hey, at least they were adding a "plus": 14nm, 14nm+, 14nm++,...

My thoughts exactly. Their foundries seem to be in almost free fall. Which, as much as it pleases me seeing Intel brasses suffer, would be bad for competition.

That's a fact. They haven't forgot how to design. But you can't make a skyscraper with tree logs

Big problem: TSMC is completely full with all the other competitors demand.
Obviously, what to do with the facilities is also a big problem.

 

We shouldn't worry about this my friend. Intel has already made the deal with TSMC. It's not something that came up now. Intel's CEO Gelsinger, may look like a bank clerk but he is a seasoned engineer and one thing he understands well deep down, is manufacturing superiority. He confirmed back in late February this year, that Intel is officially a TSMC "partner" for their 3nm process and they will be making two cpu lines under it. Namely Arrow Lake and Lunar Lake. Where of course i note here, the word "partner" is a euphemism for client and a sweaty one.
But hey, let's make this connect to what is going now. If we count in the disastrous 6 months for Intel from March 'till now and the announcement that they plan to separate themselves from the Intel fabs, it should be more than obvious that this "partnership" with TSMC may last much longer than two Intel cpu generations.
Also, we shouldn't think for a moment TSMC cannot cope with another client. I'd like to take a moment here and speak about this. TSMC has 12 fabs. Apart from the really monstrous ones in Taiwan they have two in Japan, one in Germany, two in China and two in... USA. The two US fabs in Arizona and Washington, focus on cutting edge process tech and they produce 3nm and 4nm. So what if Intel wants to step in, easy peasy for TSMC really. I remember TSMC's CEO saying about Arizona's fab before they started building it "and we 're gonna make a smaller fab in Arizona". The "smaller" Arizona fab is 1100 acres or ~4.5 million square meters and capable of a maximum up to 20000 chip wafers/month. Pay attention, that is wafers not chips. TSMC 's Chairman says they will be making 600 thousand chips a year. The Arizona fab will start full production very soon in early or mid 2025. So anyone thinking Intel will have trouble producing enough numbers of cpus on time with TSMC, should really think again imho. No matter what has happened, Intel still dominates the X86 world with about 70% (~75% at Q1 2024), so even with all their current losses they are still kings of the hill if but wounded.
Cheers
PS: And the fabs in Arizona will be three actually. Watch the video here please and you 'll know why Intel is now a TSMC client.
https://www.tsmc.com/static/abouttsmcaz/index.htm
The "smaller" TSMC Arizona

 

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WOW, and then I wake up to this (Reuters): "Among steps the Intel board has decided to take, [...] pause construction of its chip factory in Germany. The company also plans to pause its [manufacturing] project in Poland."

And this comes four(!!) days after the Polish government approved €1.7 billion in taxpayer subsidies for the plant. And this comes years after Intel tapped €10 billion in German taxpayer money for its Magdeburg factory. Not to mention the double digit billions granted in the EU Chips Act.

"Pause" - We'll see if they'll ever resume construction of if we're looking at >€25 billion graves.

Relatedly, South Korean outlets are reporting that Samsung is pivoting its 4nm facilities towards HBM and DRAM memory, citing yield problems with more complex chips. Samsung's 3nm process allegedly only this summer achieved double digit yields (in the low 20%s) and has failed to attract third party customers. Samsung says it is considering moving 2/3 of its R&D staff into production for 2nm because of the widening gap between research and yield reality.

 

Very interesting info.
Anyways, what I meant is not that TSMC can't produce for Intel too but the price for such high number of CPUs (built with TSMCs waffles aka "chips prime material"), especially 3n.

There were confirmed talks since quite a few years, basically when AMD trashed completely Intel with Ryzen 5000s series. Or even before. Without the world shortage caused partially by COVID perhaps Intel would already made the switch. No billionaire government "help"

Would be interesting to know how much money Intel will pay. It would suck if they still have more cash than AMD.
But since AMD is only using 3nm for server chips ignoring PC consumers (latest Ryzen is on 4nm) perhaps it would be good instead.
For fuck's sake, AMD is making me root for Intel! I'll never forgive you motherfuckers

 

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I didn't mention Samsung before, but they were until not long the most advanced node after TSMC. Perhaps they still are seeing Intel mess, but that doesn't seem difficult lol

Nvidia's 3000 series was done with Samsung but they switched to TSMC from there on, because Samsung couldn't keep up. Your comments about its current are interesting though sad.

 

I don’t think the Intel crash will be a long-term thing. They’re too big to just go out like that, out of nowhere nonetheless.

They will most likely bounce back