Consider this: Right now, you're at the mountain's base and you're looking up to the top. You're assuming that people must be magically teleporting up there or that there's a helicopter pad hidden somewhere, because all you see is the beginning of a path up, but then the path disappears behind a rock. Your conclusion: There's no way to continue up the mountain, the path ends right there, people get there by magic means and it's completely impossible for mere mortals to ascend even a tiny section of the mountain. But in reality, the path continues behind the rock; but you'd never know unless you start walking and check behind the rock, and then behind the next rock and the next one and so on.

Figuring out how to do hard-thing-XYZ is infinitely easier once you've completed all the steps that come before XYZ - one by one. Why waste energy trying to figure out how to fill an arena when at this point you need to fill your first sheet of music.

 

because such things make money, and real Pros don't publicly share such knowledge in order to loose their income
also, because Pros that have actual work to do, don't have time to waste on making noob tutorials

ps: I hope it doesn't sound offensive, it's just how things are, it's not economically viable to make very advanced online courses for relatively very small audience, if you want to learn such things, probably consult with local engineers first

 

If only I was 6'10" I'd be in the NBA, if I could hit a fastball 450 feet I'd be the home run champ in major league baseball, and if someone would just create an A-Z tutorial on how to write a symphony I'd be the next fucking Tchaikovsky.

 

Untrue. There are schools and instructors that teach advanced theory, orchestration and composition.

 

one does large tasks, by breaking them into smaller tasks. you don't perform to a 100,000 thousand people. you perform to the 1st rows. but you learn by performing to 1 person, an audience of 1, then 2 (hey I doubled my audience) etc. - This teaches you stage presence, how to recover when you fuck up on stage, how to deal with it when other people, like the FOH audio guy fucks up, or the lighting guy etc.

You learn the logistics of transport of your performance gear, is it the same as your studio gear?, whats the minimum you need to pull off a gig, what extra shit do i need to bring in case of ....

you don't read a book or watch a tutorial and then build a skyscraper 200 stories tall. you figure out how to build a shed and learn what skills you have and what you need to learn, and also if you have the chops to even accomplish builiding a shed, let alone a skyscraper.

There are no expert videos, because experts already know how to do things. thats why experts make videos for beginners to teach them how to get started and how to learn what they will need to learn to succeed in the future.

no one gives you the world on a platter. you must seek and you must pull from yourself what it takes to accomplish whatever you desire.

 

perhaps baby steps, crawl before you leap?

 

Why does this George Bernard Shaw nonsense keep being requoted as though it is some kind of fact?

Many, many working musicians teach for additional income and virtuoso classical musicians often have apprentices that study under them.

A much more intelligent quote and the likely source of the contrary GBS one comes from Aristotle:

"Those that know, do. Those that understand, teach."

 

yes , and you need to at least have some abilities, usually proven by performing on an instrument and/or composing, which requires performing on an instrument or some computer equivalent of a real world musical instrument.

there are rare, very rare individuals who can accomplish things without training, they are referred to as Savantes, they are very rare, that is why there are tutorials for beginners and schools and books and teachers. The tools all exist, it is only the will to learn and the grind of actually performing the tasks to gain the knowledge that keeps most people content to not accomplish anything other than making a sandwhich and watching television.

 

I think there's a little implied phrase that gets left out of that quote.
"Those that can [make money at it] do, those that can't teach."

 

There's an inherent contradiction in your post - if a symphony is a great artistic achievement, then how can there be a step by step process of writing it that can fit into a neat youtube video. Anything that can be summed up in such a way has become so formalized that you can take clear steps in essentially manufacturing it, doing it by the book. At that point, it would become content like any other video on producing the most generic type of trap or techno or whatever, and you would complain about it in a similar way, instead of admiring those symphonies.

That said, there are books and youtube videos on writing for different orchestral instruments, their ranges, playing styles, the process of orchestration, arrangement, voice leading and counterpoint, etc. - it's all there. What you're asking is akin to demanding a tutorial on writing a "great novel," which would be ridiculous. There are of course great works one can learn from, grammar textbooks, dictionaries, works of literary criticism, etc.
If there were such a step-by-step shortcut to great art, it would neither be personal, nor original, nor that great.

Also, it's tricky to involve Hollywood into all of this, as that's business and a different game after all. It's filled with incredibly talented people, of course, but it's easy to argue that some of their best work had been done outside of it, or before they hit the truly major productions - just look at Ostlund, Bong Joon-ho, Haneke, Villeneuve, etc. (it's similar in the music industry). But, based on that prior great work, one becomes interesting to the industry, which then utilizes them to sprinkle some uniqueness/their personal touch over the (often) stale formulas - to refresh those formulas a bit, but keep them commercially viable.

 

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Yes, accomplishing things, requires doing things, not watching things.

 

NASA isn't a teaching institution per se... they are concerned with space exploration. I don't go to the grocery store to learn how to milk a cow. I expect NASA to make rockets and satellites and explore space, not make youtube videos.

I think you think everybody is hiding something from you, but really its you that is hiding something from you..

 

This is a great analogy.

All knowledge is available if you are aware of what knowledge it is that you are seeking. That deeper knowledge is generally only revealed once you learn the prior knowledge necessary to understand the next level. Claiming that it doesn't exist is just a declaration of not knowing in the first place what it is that one is seeking.

Edit: That's in serious danger of sounding like metaphysical bollocks.

 

books.

 

this doesnt count ?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLb4e06brKgKzQbx0cL75NYQ8eD5Pf8uW2

 

Because if you need a tutorial you are a beginner.

 

Breaking news : Richard Feynman couldn't do physics, so he taught.

 

If this tutorial was useful why aren't there any new Beethovens? HUH?

 

probably still searching for a better tutorial.

 

So, from what I understand from your post, you want a tutorial that shows you how to do everything without the trouble of actually learning.
Keep dreaming my friend...