Here's mine tricks for upfront vocals

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  1. Swg Itsyo

    Swg Itsyo Member

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    My tricks for keeping a voice prominent in the mix involve compressing it quite a bit—often with a limiter and around 10dB of gain reduction. I also frequently use Trackspacer or Soothe for more detailed work. The Focusrite Fast is great, but it lacks mid-side processing and can sometimes produce an unpleasant effect!


    I struggle to maintain the voice consistently centered, especially when there’s an almost empty intro followed by a super dense chorus. I don’t like to automate the vocals; I prefer to "manage" the beat so that it’s tailored around the voice.


    What are your tricks? What suggestions do you have?
     
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  3. Kate Middleton

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  4. ELJUNTADERO2022

    ELJUNTADERO2022 Producer

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    At one point I used the waverider tg to then apply compression and more effects... but now sometimes I even do it by hand... it's not that much work... but these plugins make the work a lot easier.
    Then it is opto compression + another fet compression, distortion just to generate harmonics and then some limiter.
     
  5. Smeghead

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    I have never had luck with extreme limiting and vocal riding. It all creates far more problems to fix than is worth it... I just use reasonable compression and mix, like ye olde days. With Automation and envelope drawing what could be simpler? Nothing's better than your ears for this kind of work.
     
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  7. shinyzen

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    Comp excellent tracks. You cant polish a turd.

    Tune using melodyne

    Align BY HAND. Zoom in and align the syllable by hand to the main vocal. This is more for pop vocals or even hip hop.

    clean your tracks. remove all clicks, pops, noise etc.

    Volume automate. Turning down esses etc drastically and using clip gain to automate syllables or words that need it.

    Light autotune to give it that sound. Shouldnt be noticeable since you already tuned using melodyne.

    Depending on genre, section of the song etc.

    Lead - centered

    2-4 layers - panned

    Spots 2-4 panned

    Harms - same as Lead, one centered 2-4 layers panned

    Now focus on the Lead, processing that alone. Use first fast attack compression to tame, then slower compression to glue / shape.
    EQ as needed, be sure not to overdo it

    you can process individual elements if needed, but it may be easier to process the layers in subgroups.

    Bring those in slowly to where they sit nicely against the lead.

    glue compression, MB Compression, EQ, Limit, De-ess, soothe the group.
     
  8. bluerover

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    Inward Connections TSL4.
     
  9. shinyzen

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    used to have access to one of those. beautiful piece of gear.
     
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    Which is what exactly ...
    Help me here mate. So "that sound" isn't noticeable? Why do it in the first place then hehehe
     
  11. shinyzen

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    its a subtle smoothing. Its become such a huge part of pop records nowadays. You dont want that t-pain classic auto tune sound, just to gently paint the autotune on. Smoothing out some of those pitch transitions. I meant to "give it that pop sound". It shoulnt be noticeable, as in it shouldnt have the drastic in your face t pain sound.
     
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