just for shits and grins, somebody do a poll of" how many different USB cables do you own?"
i have at least 3 boxes of various usb cables, gender changers, micro to mini to c, extender cables, hubs, powered hubs.
some fucker in china has a new house from me alone...

its all IEEE shit, meaning someone wrote a spec and it was approved by a commitee. at any point someone could have said, no this is a shitty connector, lets make it right the first time, lets make it locking so it can't accidentally be unplugged and corrupt a device.
lets make it keyed so it will only work one way, lets color code it to make it easier to plug in @ low light, or by feel, but no its a cluster fuck of connectors and cables and variations and standards. This shit wasn't for the benefit of the users...

feel free to extrapolate this to explain why we have so many shitty standards that don't really work like promised and always need new hardware to work.

 

I wasn't talking to you man, I just saw the tenor of the thread nosedive without a whole let of help and name calling.

I don't know or care who did it, and I'm not pointing fingers.

I just think we can spend a day without everyone clawing for the bottom.

(and again, lol, I'm not meaning you kingchubby. )

 

again you don't seem to understand the problem. Most people got this problem after a bios update. How can you blame someone that has bought hardware that was working at one point but after a bios update it did not work with thunderbolt 2 anymore. Also learn the difference between a soundcard and a audio interface. You seem to be obsessed to blame the buyer when Intel is to blame in this case.

 

Planned obsolesce is part of modern capitalism. You can find workarounds, hell I'm still mixing on my Ensoniq PARIS rig... from 1998, and I can most likely out mix 98% here on it, lol. Tools don't make the art, the artist makes the art with the tools around them.

So go find some NOS parts and build yourself a computer to run your TB1/2 interfaces and get busy making music. Maybe buy backup NOS computer parts cheap now while you can, and again get busy making music. Or don't and buy the newest TB4 interface, and get busy making music... the theme here is determine the tools you want to use then get busy making music using them.

I'm betting TB 1/2 interfaces prices are about to DROP! Might be a great time to scoop up some quality hardware tools if your mindset is right.

 

Either Intel will listen to public, or the WAREZ/Underground community will find a way - It always has and always will since the 80s. We're gonna be fine!

 

NOBODY PERFORMS A BIOS UPDATE BEFORE PURCHASE
READ SPECS AND LEARN ABOUT COMPUTER

 

..unless its that ultimate important prestige thing why should someone buy up do date when his rig still serving well .Yeah back in the day companys build lasting products
Today 3 years is considered durable .

 

are you kidding? Of course the bios get updated when they produce a new stock of motherboards. With your logic every motherboard would have the first bios. And if it was so it would work with thunderbolt 2. Like I have tried to explain to you the thunderbolt 2 stopped working AFTER a bios update. So actually you argue against yourself.
Again before blaming the customer and calling him a moron get you facts straight. This was Intel fault and nobody else.

 

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arent them the same cabelwise ? latency wise ? tb port on the back of a desktop pc directly into pci e lane is faster ?

 

Tbh, this is the least of problems. It sucks, but is inevitable. I do hope Intel allow people to use it in some new firmware version.

The real issue for me is the Mac compatibility and I mean overall. Apple breaks software and hardware compatibility like it's nothing with every update. And I mean yes, almost every update. Since Big Sur it has been better, but I remember when you updated and for example all XLN Audio plugins had no UI. Or recently a whole update which messed iLok up (that actually says more about how iLok is relying on trying to go deep into the system and failing if the makers of the system choose to change something one day).

And yet, I still use Apple. For me there's just nothing like Logic Pro. Any other DAW where I can use transients to put a percussion loop to match the BPM and still sound good? Not sure. Only good alternative is Ableton, which is...expensive and kind of "not pretty". But the price you pay is as mentioned above and the fact you can't upgrade anything in your machine.

Apple are control freaks...

 

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Every Intel Mac since Feb. 2011 has used "Thunderbolt". Apple were also one of the primary developers of "Firewire", along with Sony and Panasonic. There are some technical differences, but most of these names are because Apple want to stick their own name on things.

Why are people doing the BIOS update in the first place? Were they not warned that it would do this? Is there no method to flash the BIOS again to the previously working version?

 

I think you're replying to a different subject maybe? This is not about 'media' like vinyl,8-track,cassette? it's about evolution of hardware!
Or would you have rather stick to Pentium II with USB 1.0? Just because every upgrade is only about money?

 

Don't tell anyone this too, but I still use the 'Music Quest Midi Engine 8 PORT/SE Patchbay' (bought in 1996 and first used on a Windows 95!) on a Windows 10 PC via a PCIe parallel expansion card. And it still works like a charm! But.... I also realize that at some point I won't be able to use it anymore with maybe the next generation hardware? Then it's time to move on and go look for a replacement.
So I don't just buy stuff just because 'marketing' says it needs to be replaced! I buy stuff when I feel the the upgrade is worth the price or it becomes inevitable.

 

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Next UA interfaces with USB-C xxx version (?)

 

Yes, I think this is most likely? USB-C seems to be adapted by most of the major companies now?

 

ok so completely offtopic here , buts whats going on with his hair and eyebrows ?

 

Facts are intel is going the apple route in different clothes now .