First off, I had a migraine when I put this together, so my terminology and nomenclature is a little lacking - apologies. PHASE ROTATION is the big miss re terminology - again, sorry.

I present this tutorial as a replacement for the one I can no longer find on YouTube. I've yet to find a technique that rivals this and doesn't mess with the stereo-to-mono imaging (as in volume drops or phasey sounding audio).

SCRUB to 00:02:30 to get to the lesson.

Feel free to critique or criticize this all you want if you're feeling particularly nasty and/or technically arrogant - I have thick skin - but all I can tell y'all is that this works. I have no idea how. "I'm a doctor, not a magician, Jim!"

I use VERY LITTLE to accomplish the job of stereofying a mono track. LESS IS MORE!

Love to hear if anyone's tried this or will try it and what they think?

 

I haven't watched but 30 seconds so far, and I personally am not "bothered" by this. But I would suggest to you, to very much rethink your example audio material.

 

Let me guess, it's because oddly tuned Takamine guitars can be offensive?

 

Oh, I can only guess that someone in a matter of hours will tell me there's an easier way to achieve the exact same thing. All I know, is that this worked wonders, where used just a smidge.

Just watched the demo on the MStereo thingy ... yeah, that looks like a pretty advanced way of doing things to the same ends exactly. My method costs no monies ... for people on a shoe-string budget sorta thing.

 

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i think what @clone meant to say is to try to avoid polemic subjects on your audio material.
i'm personally not bothered either, but religion, politics, might bother some people.
that kind of stuff could take away some of your potential viewers, unless that is your target audience/niche.

 

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It's one trick among other. Depending on the source of the audio material, tone/scale..., different delay length and further manipulation may be needed... Better to have more than one trick in your bag and also try to make that the sum to mono/L to mono/R to mono benefits from these phase shifts rather than just suffer from it.

 

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I'm not sure why you find that funny. Maybe you missed the thread, but recently a studio had 100K damage done to it's control room over a flag on the user interface of a plugin.

It doesn't bother me at all. You asked for feedback.

 

This is the perfect In The Box way, indeed. Thank you!

I often do the Out The Box way, too. Just duplicate the mono track (Reaper does this by default - there are no mono tracks by default), send it out through your favourite hardware, probably compressor, and back to DAW. You get a subtly analogue "stereoised" sound with some harmonics. Now stereoising it this way is usually not enough, so to stereoise it further use a plugin that controls the "width" - phase distance (difference if you like). I never go beyond 90 degrees, to retain mono compatibility.

Cheers!

 

isn't this what people call haas effect?

 

not exactly. The actual "haas effect" is hearing 2 channels which are just barely different, and perceiving them as coming from the same sound source instead of 2 sources. As long as the delay between Left and Right is not far apart. I looked it up and google says this is 40ms or less difference. He uses ten milliseconds in the video. I usually add a delay like this in # of samples (and way under 40ms of them) vs using the ms equivalent. And then he is using the Voxengo PHA-979 for phase alignment. It's the same thing, but the actual "haas effect" refers to the psychoacoustic phenomenon, not what you are doing to cause it.

If you were to watch the Protoculture Mixing Bass and Kick videos, he shows an additional little trick inside Sonic Academy Kick 2. And then also uses the PHA-979 plugin. Old tricks that will work forever.

 

can´t really follow the discussion.

to make "stereo" out of mono, you just change anything you want on either channel.

the most common oldschool method uses narrow band EQs, but anything about phase or anything with delays (aka "modulation effect") does it, too.

not to forget anything about amplitude (aka "autopanning". or different dynamic modulations for L and R)

and then of course combinations of all these things.