Convincing vocal harmonizing - Hardware vs Software?

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  1. Ryan

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    Natural sounding harmony like real backup singers can be achieved by using one of the quite convincing virtual singers like the Dreamtonics Synth V singers (like Solaria).

    And if you do want your own voice as harmony rather than a random another singer, you can train one of the free AI voice changers what your voice sounds like and change the synth V voice to sound like your voice or anyone's voice. Even Freddy Mercury could be your backing singer now. Then you can build lots of harmonies using that voice. And once you've trained the AI, you do not have to keep training it.


    Anyway, just some ideas that might be helpful for someone, sometime!
     
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  2. 0on3

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    that DigiTech VHM5 Vocalist only sounds like barber shop crap dude , yuk ..... lol !!!
     
  3. Roger2009

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    Thank you 0on3, that's mighty generous. Speaking of which I noticed a folder on my PC last night called 0n3 SR-16 for Kontakt that I downloaded some time back. Now I know who the author is - great work. I still have the original machine too. Cheers.
     
  4. Dr. Black

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    I once tested vocal harmonizing.
    There where 2 guys sitting on the floor and i had my gun out.
    I sayed.... Sing !!!
    And HALLELUJA, they sang the same song.
    Then i sayed... WTF? Not that SONG!...
    So... they there Quied........
    I sayed.. What song comes to mind?....
    They sayed nothing....
    U sayed... Try with N e
    And this is what they sang

    DO YOU SEE THE X at the end?
     
  5. Trurl

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    That might really be interesting to play with.
     
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    And in the end... They where all convinced about theyre harmonizing with my vocals.

    Anyways.... You can sing or not.
    If or when you need tools for correcting your shitty singing, you are not a singer.
    Learn how to sing... it takes years to do... Or you are a natural.
    If not... talk some shit to an AI computer, maby he can sing for you.

    Sorry for this comment, but i'm done with BS AI so called "singers".
    Soon we do not even know like Milly Vanilly (Remember Them?)
    Are ALL FAKE.
     
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  7. Trurl

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    Great, noted. Moving on...
     
  8. Trurl

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    Believe it or not, Rob turned out to be a fine singer. He tours doing his own music and he also does the MV stuff and it sounds great.
     
  9. Dr. Black

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    Show me
     
  10. Lois Lane

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    OK, maybe...just maybe they actually sang that shit, but what I want to know is, what Kontakt library did they use for the guitar parts? Also, I heard that Geoff Emerick used a warzed copy of Drumagog to replace the shit drum sound from that shit room at Abby Road Studios. Can anybody confirm or deny?

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    Ringo's setup for the recording of "Help"
     
  11. Trurl

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    My bad, Rob passed away, it's Fab-
     
  12. Roger2009

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    Focus on what you do best, in my case it's the instrumentation, not the singing. My goal is to create a vocal track that conveys and inspires a REAL singer how I want it to sound - then I'll leave it up to them to weave their magic. Harmonizers, AI-assisted singing, whatever, they are just tools to help get the job done. I read somewhere that John Lennon (and probably many others like him of that era) hated singing over the top of himself and would have loved the tech we have today.
     
  13. Ryan

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    Also, these days you can blend Ai voices. So let's say you do not want some celebrity in your track, then you can just blend 10 of their voices together to a new voice model. It's like cooking your own dish with AI voices. Maybe a bit of Tom Jones here and little Pavarotti and michael jackson there.
     
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    Excuse me Ryan, could you please tell me which programs do you use for training a ia for vocals? It would be great to try it and have great singers together in a track
     
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    Eventides vst emulation works just great.
     
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    Listen to the Queen/Bohemian Rhapsody preset! :thumbsup:
     
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    Listen to the Queen/Bohemian Rhapsody preset! :winker:
     
  18. Lois Lane

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    Their doctor prescribed them all Melodyn Chlorohydrate tablets and then they won the championship. It is a true modern miracle that the Pharmaceutical Industrial complex and software developer Celemony could join forces and come up with such a thing to save both singers and producers in this, the modern age. AI be damned.

     
  19. BaSsDuDe

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    I checked it out. That's pretty close

    @Lois Lane - check it out - the lead mezzo-soprano vocal (Solaria) is impressive. The harmonies only sound more AI with headphones in the second demo on the same page. The bass voice (Asterian) link underneath it is interesting. The tenor/baritone last is also impressive (Hayden). I never knew this product existed. The last link is completely solo (Natalie). I thought it would be more $'s at this level of accuracy next to many others that are far more expensive.

    https://store.dreamtonics.com/product/solaria-voice-database/
    https://store.dreamtonics.com/product/asterian-voice-database/
    https://store.dreamtonics.com/product/hayden-voice-database/
    https://store.dreamtonics.com/product/vdb-natalie/
     
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  20. Trurl

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    Clearly your Bag of Fucks (tm) has been empty lately :rofl:
     
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