No one in the entire history of music has been able to master 12-note music.

 

Yes, they have. you never read the book and you never played instruments.

 

Stop feeding the troll, just report it.

 

Tonal harmony books limit you to 7-note music. They have been written for this purpose. Even the topics about notes outside the key in them are mostly for chromatizing the 7-note music.

 

So you create a thread with a question while you already have the answer..??
It smells like foster spirit...

 

I've asked this several times, but no answer yet: What (or who) is "foster"? I googled it, but the results seem inappropriate for this topic ...

 

A guy that was doing exactly this: create a thread with a question, while his goal was not to receive answers, but to convince others of his own answer. It became a definition with a wink here.

 

@Olymoon
Ah, that explains a lot.
Thanks

 

I listened to this. Thanks for sending it. But what I mean is a song. A new song made by a musician, music producer, etc. for the general public. I even mentioned this in my first post. Friends sent a series of works, but these are not songs. The reason for my emphasis on songs is to learn new techniques that use 12 notes in our time. If in the last month or two, you heard a new song that was made for the general public and used 12 notes, I would be grateful to you. Now, it is not necessary that all 12 notes have been used, any song that has used notes outside the range of 7 notes with full delicacy and splendor is acceptable.

 

DEGRAD, you win. It's impossible to make songs with 12 notes...
OK, I'm out, sorry, I'll do some music, with 5, 7 or even 12 or what ever quantity of notes...
While I feel it's beautiful.

Good luck.

 

The question being to use notes in songs, this supposes harmony and therefore chords.
We can therefore use the 12 notes of the chromatic scale knowing that each will have a role and a particular importance in relation to the chord on which we will play them.
for example, if I play a CMaj chord: C will be the root, E the third and G the fifth. This is the structure of the chord.

The notes B or Bb (depending on the tonality) will be the 7th and are part of the superstructure of the chord, as are D, F or F# and A (the F rather replacing the third to obtain a Sus4 chord) which are notes enrichments.

The remaining notes, C#, G# and D# (although this one can be used as a Blue note) will be chromatic transition notes to more "important" notes.

And There you go ! You have your 12 notes.

 

hmm, why does these sort of treads look familiar, like a ghost from the past ..





Is the freak back?


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If someone wants to teach a machine to use 12 notes, what algorithms will he use? Algorithms can be suggested for 7 notes, but what about 12 notes?
My emphasis on the algorithm is to perform a series of specific operations on the notes to produce a song.

 

Recurrent Neural Networks (RNNs) and Long Short-Term Memory (LSTM), Transformer Neural Networks, Variational Autoencoders (VAEs), Gaussian Mixture Models (GMMs), Markov Models, Evolutionary Algorithms and Rule-Based Systems.

This stuff is complicated, I can go into specifics but, forgive me for saying this, based on your generic question you don't appear to have any kind of specific grounding in the fundamentals of machine learning.

 

I want only that algorithm.

 

And I want only 81 million euro.

 

Whenever that algorithm is found and sold, your €810 million is guaranteed.

 

Nah, 81 million is enough for me. I'm modest about that.

 

9 out of 12 notes are enough?

 

Why 12? Have you not found your note yet?