hi, new pc build with am5 chipset and x3d cpu, planning on win10 21h1 phoenix os.

is there any advantage installing in uefi mode, or disadvantages?
the guy in the shop said i would have to find legacy drivers for a non-uefi system, is that true or is uefi just another microsoft gimmick that will bug me from now on?

 

It may be a Noob question...
BTW what is uefi...?

 

yes you want UEFI + SecureBoot when running Windows 10 or 11,
UEFI will also let you boot bigger than 2TB GPT-formatted drives,
you might also see motherboard's logo instead of Windows logo at boot

 

Yes, UEFI, unless you want a BIOS from 2000 and before.

 

UEFI gets confusing, I know.

But roughly it's this: it replaces the BIOS, so instead of BIOS you get UEFI. UEFI is more modern so it allows for SecureBoot and further partitioning schemes (like GPT), just as @tzzsmk mentioned.

So unless you're using older systems use UEFI for future proofness.

 

UEFI (Which was released in 2006 and Secure Boot was added in Version 2.3.1 in 2012) is the successor of BIOS (Which was released in 1981).UEFI is more secure and got Advantages over BIOS but it also has a lot of Security Holes.

 

Last edited: Jul 22, 2023

So it's Basically a type of software which we see when starting windows i.e Bios utility right?
I am not a computer geek and I still use an old machine from 2010 with win7 running fine for what I need now and it's has BIOS screen during startup so never knew that there was something else like it. Thanks..

 

It's Called Secure boot yet it has Security Holes.
Lets just get to the root of the OS and infect it not just the windows OS.
You have got to LOL at that.
This is not making fun at you just the whole MS Security.

 

It's the same with TPM also lot of Security Holes, but there is a bigger Problem when your TPM is activated and there occours a major Problem with it it will make your whole Computer unusable (means you have to change the whole Motherboard). Beacause of that my TPM is deactivated and i can't understand why Microsoft with Win 11 forces normal User that are not that deep expierenced to do so.

 

I heard about
WiN 11 with TPM/without TPM in some ARTICLE and wondered what it means practically but never thought you have to change motherboard if activated when needed.

It's really scary for ordinary users like me who doesn't unfortunately understand computer jargon.

Thanks for enlightening me

 

UEFI gives me diarrhea.

 

Most modded versions of Windows 11 have TPM/SecureBoot requirements disabled.

 

Last edited: Jul 23, 2023

Rufus (bootable usb creation tool) has an option for removal of nasty Windows 11 bullshit like TPM and SecureBoot requirement, online Microsoft account, and skip of data collection privacy questions

 

Indeed. What an awesome little program

 

agreed

There's really no need for "insecureboot" or uefi and certainly not TPM which is just another ploy to give the control to the OEM and remove control from YOU the owner. There are no boogiemen to "infect" you if your machine never touches the internet - since no production machine should ever touch the internet anyway. Unless you REALLY need to boot to a GPT system drive (bigger than 2TB) who gives a fuck? You can have as many non-system GPT drives as you want of any size using legacy mode, and drivers are no issue either way. My system drive is a 2TB NVMe - the rest of the storage in the system are SSD and HDD which are all GPT running in legacy mode - no TPM no insecureboot no internet no problems...

 

Last edited: Jul 24, 2023

Thanks for that tip. I had mine disabled but enabled it for the win 11 test. I will defiantly disable it now.

Well you can not say why MS anything for security reasons. It's more MS will try anything to try and make there systems more secure.
Even if it requires more and more layers and always fails. LOL

Also I am not buying the BS that windows gets attacked because it's the most OS out there. There are more Linux servers ( doing real work ) in the world than windows. Yes I know Linux has it share of vulnerabilities. Usually Linux the fix is with in hours unlike MS that takes days.

 

So as a noob I guess it's advisable to have old BIOS utility or should one got uefi or windows with/without TPM.

Or should one load one of the types and load some additional stuff to offset this like rufous I mean

 

If it's really about Security there is no way arround Qubes OS (Way better than Tails OS), but it needs special Hardware to fully function.


Homepage:
https://www.qubes-os.org/

Certified Hardware:
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/certified-hardware/#hardware-certification-requirements

Hardware compatibility List:
https://www.qubes-os.org/hcl/

 

To be true it was like this 15-20 Years ago when my Dad was real deep into data center managment that Linux was the Mainserver OS (For things like Banks etc. it was Solaris which was way way more secure and ahead of its time with Stuff like ZFS and so on) but nowadays there are a lot of Windows Servers, because the biggest Problem is that there are not enough advanced admins to handle Linux nowadays. The Last Company i worked in has a big data center and 95% are Windows.

 

It does have the largest share of potential victims (phish) all running the same, or similar; OS versions. But I think it has just as much to do with the typical "hacker ethic" of David and Goliath. Even people who are MS users and customers hate MS as much as everyone else, if not more.
A critical remote exploit on a *nix variant will not even be noteworthy enough to be a mainstream news/media story. Maybe a story on Wired, if even that. Problems in an Open Source software being found is to be expected; it is one of the best things about it. It can be reviewed by anyone, disclosed, and fixed. Giving one of the worlds largest tech companies a black eye is something different to people, even if it really isn't.