Chat AI is the new keygen pro :D

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  1. tzzsmk

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    let's ask ChatGPT to generate valid Windows OEM keys, "indirectly" :))



    what a marvellous future ahead :chilling:
     
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    Cool stuff. I see win xp and 95 didn't see win 10 or 11 do you think it can do it?
     
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    you can ask chat AI to explain you Windows 10 and Windows 11 OEM key formats, ask for all the details, explanations etc..., finally ask it for examples to make sure you understand it, that's it
    :chilling:
     
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    Thanks for the reply
     
  6. Ryck

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    ahahhaa what a good idea. I'm going to ask him to help me decipher the Sonnox ones.
     
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    Maybe it can help crack the newest Soundtoys bundle :rofl:
     
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    this only works if the formats were online documented, if they dont, it wont work.

    for example chatgpt doesnt know anything about ilok and other pace products. Because the documentation is not public.
     
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    give it some time, programmers themselves are not working completely offline, their search prompts and all sorts of anonymous data collection already tell a lot, and people enjoy being spied by google and others to be given more relevant search results
     
  10. Ryck

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    so AI cannot think for itself? i.e. it needs a database? if so, then it is not yet AI. I mean (and correct me if I am wrong). The IA is supposed to be able to think by itself and the information is not public and it should do the calculations by itself.
     
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    more likely to learn what every single plugin does and clone it as new unprotected plugins bundle,
    every piece of computer code is based on what's already known, nothing truly creative when you think about it...
     
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    such a thing is pretty much impossible and has been debated by philosophers since the times of turing. we should start by defining what "thinking" means
     
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  13. Ryck

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    Well, let's start from one point. In order to "think" we need to be based on information. Let me give you an example.
    I have my guitar connected to an amplifier, and suddenly the sound starts to cut out, sometimes the guitar sounds and sometimes not. Based on the information I have I can think "is it the cable" ? "But let's say I am just a guest and I don't know what a guitar or an amplifier is and I am left with just a guitar and an amplifier. Well, I won't know what the hell is going on, and I won't have any prior information to be able to deduce or think what might be going on. Maybe I think a ghost or a spell made the guitar stop playing.
    So what I'm getting at is, the AI could do these calculations without a data base. That is, it comes up with a problem and just knows what problem is there, and within the information it has, it can create new information to solve that problem. As a human being would do (disassemble the cable, disassemble the equipment, etc.).
    I do not know if I explained.
     
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    you explained yourself very clearly mate.
    i don't believe this is possible, but i might be easily wrong, i'm no expert. what you talk about "it can create new information from the information it has" i believe we might already be at this point or at least very close. but coming up with something out of thin air, i cannot see it. at the end, the neural network/AI or whatever is still relying on transistor and 0s and 1s and some sort of code, however complex it might be.

    are you familiar with the concept of the chinese room, proposed by searle?
     
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    someone needs to teach the AI to start breaking private network on its own and not limit its knowledge to the publicly available documents only.
     
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    I just saw a video, I did not know the experiment of the Chinese room, and the theory is very good, just like Alan Turing's theory.
    I tell you what I think from my philosophy, I am no expert, just curious and passionate.

    They say that a machine is incapable of feeling, and that it reads Chinese, but in reality it does not really understand Chinese, right?

    But you have to go deeper than that. The human mind has been collecting information for millions of years, or the amount of years that each one believes that human life has been in existence. Because the information is already carried in our genes from generation to generation. This has made that our brain "AI Huamana" has a huge database with information that is in our unconscious and we do not know it. It is like having a lot of information on a hard drive, in some parts where we have forgotten, but it is there, full of projects, vst, etc..
    For my way of seeing things, everything is information, even feeling is information, we feel because our brain is sending information, in fact pain is a way of warning us that something is wrong.
    I will give you an example. I have told you this several times, and maybe something similar has happened to you.
    Once I was running because I missed the bus to go back home, then when I was running up I fell on the stairs of the bus, and my bone hit against the stairs. But I didn't see anything, I just felt the blow. At that moment it was just a bump and that was it. But then when I sat down, I felt that my pants had stuck to my leg, then I started to worry, when I lifted up my pants, my leg was full of blood, and I could see my egg, and then the pain started, a terrible pain. But until I saw what was happening, I didn't feel pain. So for me that is another proof that pain is information.
    I also believe that feelings are information associations. We feel guilt because we associate information, we feel desire because we associate information " oh, how I wish I had a house, if I had a house, I would do this" . Etc
    And I think when the AI can start to create information from other information, it will look like a human.
    Hopefully not hahahahahah. I don't like the idea, but I think it is possible.
     
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    You can get keys to different plugins, by following high / drunk producers livestreaming on YouTube :yes:
     
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    I have to disagree with you. Intelligence is caught exactly when the person has to solve a problem that is unknown by him/her. And not when you have information about the possible issues. Sure, having some knowledge can help and reduce the troubleshooting time but the main thing is that intelligence is about to find solutions even without any hint. Just think about solving code languages or unknown languages.

    I hate this hype around the ChatGPT. It only serves to amaze people with average or below average knowledge.
    AI has been proven to beat chess or go players. True. But it's because those games are about using a prelearnt knowledge and trying to think multiple steps forward, in that aspect the computer has more resources. They just needed to build one that had more than the best players had. But has not much to do with thinking. Nor with feeling, sensing.
    AI can only guess and pretend to give you the right answer, just like many self-important people do to amaze/satisfy some amature audience.
    And AI also cheats when pretends its intelligence with collected (spied) information from the internet. It's like when I wanted to cheat on my Russian exam in school and write the conjugation table onto my desk before the class and I was confident but at the end (too late) I realized that the info I used was incorrect.

    In that video the guy actually tried to provide an accurate guideline to write the codes and even so ChatGPT failed to understand it. It was just like a senior employee sitting next to a newbie and providing him the manuals for his/her task. It's far from what AI is supposed to be capable.
     
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    How do you know it is a him :cheers:
     
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    If A.I. has been programed with Hegel Dialetics, it would probably think and even more: make revolution
     
  21. Sylenth.Will.Fall

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    ChatGPT both excites and scares me. If used for cracks.. errrr.. I mean ' for good' then that would be great, but when you get dangerous people mixed with the power hungry (Ie Politicians) OK oK I'm kidding , but what if AI starts to think of humans as a threat and merely poisons the food chain, or reservoirs? Or Terminators spring to mind.. Is that so far out of the reach of AI once it starts to out think us?
    There are people far more intelligent than us who think AI could be the single biggest threat to human life. Stephen Hawking's Speech back in 2014 springs to mind

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30290540
     
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