macOS Ventura is out, shall we upgrade or wait?

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  1. spncart

    spncart Producer

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    Nothing related to music really lol

    https://www.apple.com/macos/ventura/features/

    But just a slightly improved OS, doesn't hurt overall for daily use.
     
  2. kingchubby

    kingchubby Rock Star

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    Cherry Audio users take note:

    "Cherry Audio is still testing macOS 13 Ventura with our products, and it is not supported at this time. We recommend that you do not update to Ventura until we release updates. Each product page will be updated once certified for use with Ventura, as will the FAQ on our Support page. If you have any issues, please get in touch with Cherry Audio Support. Thank you for your patience as we work to ensure that our users have the best experience possible".
     
  3. 8bits

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    Are you guys here for make music or play with Apple to be a free betatester?
    Jesus i don’t understand you, make music instead, life is short.
     
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  4. bboy

    bboy Noisemaker

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    I take back an earlier post about everything working. Best Service Engine AU fails in Logic 10.7.4, get this error.
    VERIFYING OPTIONAL PROPERTIES:
    VERIFYING PROPERTY: Tail Time
    PASS
    VERIFYING PROPERTY: Bypass Effect
    ERROR: Property is not writable as expected
    ERROR: Property is not writable as expected
    ERROR: Property is not writable as expected
    ERROR: Property is not writable as expected
    FAIL

    * * FAIL
    --------------------------------------------------
    AU VALIDATION FAILED: CORRECT THE ERRORS ABOVE.
    --------------------------------------------------
     
  5. Justin-Cydeher

    Justin-Cydeher Kapellmeister

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    Check logs to see if Apple collected info like your apps, activity, reset host file info, dialed back to developers, re instated ocsp malware to spy on you via camera and or mic, i heard they tried sabotaging itunes/music due to ppl listening to music during AI spying, the AI cant pick up what your saying which makes it difficult to gather valuable-profitable info about your activities for what ever reason anyone needs to get to you for..
     
  6. Justin-Cydeher

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    re i stall over old stuff etc will make it work
    Apple problem with Apple is not if they work or not but that they always have security holes, like when bigsur was released everyone cried about criminal intrusion and there where class action lawsuits cause apple admitted to using chinese servers for cloud customers and they found out nothing was been encrypted after apple blamed 4 issues on hackers instead of taking responsibility for the cause..

    then ocsp was revealed and apple claimed it would take 6 months to fix removing it…right? Kidding? so after congress gave them heat about it apple stepped up their game and imbedded ocsp in their m1 chips…making it impossible to remove, even little snitch cant block it…all these moves are not apple’s own choices btw…i cant share the political info but you can guess why and that anyone with photoshop is a too small fish to fry..atleast anyone from western countries.

    so i like to know what happens with this upgrade cause i want to use a iphone 14 pro as my faketime canera
     
  7. zpaces

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  8. Valnar

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    I'm still on Catalina and it's still supported. Why risk updating to a newer OS if it could mess up your setup?
     
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  9. spncart

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    Yeah why buy a Ferrari if you drive a functioning Lada.

    Lol
     
  10. thewire

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    I have been on the Ventura beta for a few months and now Ventura 13 everything works fine even my Cherry Audio products. iLOK, UAD, Protools, Luna, SSL, Ableton, MPC, SoundTheory, Kontakt 7, Battery, Arturia, Roland Cloud, UVI, AudioThing, Ik Multimedia, Plugin Alliance, Slate Digital, Spectrasonics, Sonnox, XLN Audio, Soundtoys, Cableguys, D16, Izotope, Celemony, Kilohearts, LennarDigital, Moog Music, Serato, zplane, and much more.

    *99.8% legitimate updated software and services on both iMac2017 and 2021 MacBook Pro M1. Everyday user with extensive midi setup, too much to list have not found any hiccups.

    Hope this helps someone!
     
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  11. Valnar

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    Oh yeah, the good old Ventura Ferrari mocking the Mojave Hyundai that still runs 32 bit plugins and apps, figures
     
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    Funny I wonder how they're pulling that off on people running Mac Mini's and Studios and Pros considering those don't have mics or cameras on them.. Oh that's right, that never happened in the first place!
     
  13. beetgod

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    Just upgraded earlier today, everything works perfectly
     
  14. PifPafPif

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    There are clever ppl not "upgrading" until things are safe.
    There are trolls saying "do it NOW ! It is like driving a Ferrari !" ... and coming some days later, asking us for help because their softwares don't work anymore.

    Choose your way ...
     
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  15. spncart

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    And there are sissy incels with women posters who are afraid to make any bold move in life and still virgin at 40...

    I used to be more careful with upgrades but in this case like I anticipated it's not a major upgrade, apart from the new features it's the same OS.

    So that's why everything is working perfectly. The upgrade took 10/15 minutes, way shorter than usual.

    Choose your way :rofl:
     
  16. boomoperators

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    If you want to update, you should wait a bit as bugs are usually fixed in the forthcoming days.

    Also there is a nice utility called "Mist" that you can use to download official macOS installers so you can check it to update your Mac or see if bugs are gone. Always do a clone-backup of your OS before upgrading in case something goes wrong.
     
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  17. tzzsmk

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    I use "Mac Deploy Stick" utility to download MacOS installers, it's free and works reliably :)
     
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  18. Justin-Cydeher

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    Upgrade is fine but the sonible smart bundle (specifically eq) caused fcp, pro tools studio and logic to either stall during boot or crash
     
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  19. EddieXx

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    so,
    there is nothing, of any even remotely interest for music makers in ventura.

    and no lmao, its not like driving a Ferrari.
    first a Ferrari is a piece of shit car if you want to sit comfortably and want to actually do anything practical with it.

    and even then, Ventura for music is like picking a Ferrari, plan to make a trip. And then get forced to take the bus with the Ferrari in a bag.

    Great idea
     
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  20. Justin-Cydeher

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    All works very well, 38 GB less than previous system, you can use your iPhone 13/14 and older as a web camera with zoom (lmt 1080p) but looks great.

    izotope
    All toontracks
    All fabfilter
    Previously did not work well in catalina etc now work flawless in rosetta

    as my avatar indicates
     
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