You really should get into LINUX ! ! !

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  1. Moonlight

    Moonlight Audiosexual

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    I doubt that a generic performcnce driver even comes close to ASIO or CoreAudio.
    What is you exerience ?
     
  2. Olaf

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    You mean compared to the generic Core Audio? ;)
    No, but the drivers are not necessarily generic. Sometimes they are only "generic" for a single family of similar interfaces, but still integrated into ALSA for example, hence "out-of-the-box". Some interfaces work better, some worse. And yes, there are some that don't work at all. So it heavily depends on the specific device and also the whole system itself (PulseAudio, JACK, etc.). There is no single answer for every combination.
    Also, what would be your definition of "performance"? Latency in particular? Again there are several variables. If you're interested in how your own interface performs, it might be the easiest way to boot up a live system from a thumb drive and just try it.
     
  3. recycle

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    For you, spiteful little jackass, i found a forum where you can learn more about using linux for audio productions.

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    The following forum features stunts performed either by professionals or under the supervision of professionals. Accordingly, audiosex must insist that no one attempt to recreate or re-enact any stunt or activity performed on those computers

    https://linuxmusicians.com/
     
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  4. livemouse

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    this is the guy who will tell you to move to Linux to do your pro audio:
     
  5. ptepper

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    I have had dual-boot systems for years, desktops and laptops, with Reaper installed on both Windows and Linux partitions.

    Reaper either offers the same buffer settings on Linux or one value lower. With my last desktop PC, a couple of years ago, I could go as low as 16 samples on Linux vs 32 samples on Windows. Of course, using the same project and the same Class Compliant audio interface.

    I never measured actual latency, but subjectively there's no difference and when it comes to the lowest buffer setting in Reaper, Linux is is equal or better than Windows.
     
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  6. Moonlight

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    as I wrote:
    By properly I meant a dedicated written driver by the developer


    nah not interested, StudioOne and Logic are not available for Linux.
     
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  7. SineWave

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    Same here. I generally use just ALSA in Linux/Reaper [that's like using ASIO], but I have JACK installed for just in case I need it since JACK is incredibly flexible [JACK plugins, CSound...] and it supports running multiple audio apps together. In Windows I use ReaRoute ASIO for apps to be able to record audio into Reaper, and for editors.

    I find having both OSes available for audio work very interesting. I usually run both at the same time [I have two audio cards, one for each] with the Windows one acting as a "hardware synth" most of the time. :wink:
     
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    Last time I checked there was no shortage of audio interfaces that technically worked on Linux, but only 2 inputs out of 18 were available. Realistically, you can't just buy a piece of hardware, you have to google for old stuff that people had on hand and reported on forums as working, or take a gamble.
     
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  9. ptepper

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    If you were to check again, you would probably find out what actual Linux users on this forum have repeatedly stated: Class Compliant devices are compatible with Linux with regard to physical inputs and outputs.

    All inputs and outputs on every Class Compliant interface I have tried were recognised by Linux, and I'm not talking about the old stuff.
     
  10. Olaf

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    Truth be told, that's not the case, either. "Class compliant" only means the basic features – like main in and outputs – are supported. Everything else is optional. Sometimes additional I/O is not available, internal DSPs (if any) cannot be used, or the sampling rate is limited.
    You might see something like this in the specs:
    Screenshot 2022-06-19.png
    (Here, "ADVANCE switch = OFF" means class-compliant mode.)

    However, many drivers included in the kernel or ALSA go beyond class compliant, and can use (some) additional features, nevertheless. But still, unfortunately this is not true in every single case.

    This on the other hand is perfectly possible. It does not hold in general, though.
     
  11. luckyLuke7

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    I'm addicted to ableton for years. Been running with wine but not the same thing although very good results.
    Hope in the future with the CLAP format more plugins will be supported instead of hacking on wine for plugins.

    If I was to start music production today I would pick bitwig and debian for sure.

    I work with linux for more than 10 years Win and Mac sucks on OS level you're a hostage to those FU**ERS using that rat lab crap and as bonus they spy eveyr move they own you every pic and media that's too much.
     
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    Exactly once Ableton runs like bitwig I'm in. I use debian with Ubuntu 22 Theme best UI. I've been running Ableton 10 with good rersults on wine but have to really dig and hack for few days using FL Asio I got the best results.
     
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    even if you statement was true ( which isn t , if you know how to avoid to be spied) i have to assume that you don t even own a smartphone and you don t use google
     
  14. Mr Happy

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    Linux is a ballache to use.
     
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    You missed the joke! Duh

     
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    ...interesting, I've always had this idea of using a mini touch screen computer that allows you to load any vst/au into it and you essentially use it as a guitar pedal. Its only purpose is like an audio pass thru similar to a guitar pedal but it has an ad/da converter and allows you to mess with fx in a convenient "pedal like package"
     
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    Has anyone mentioned Nobora yet? Version 4 is out now.
    Its a Fedora based distro that focuses on media creation and gaming.

    I used MX Linux (Debian based) and Mint (Ubuntu/Debian based) and tried Manjaro (Arch based).
    These really didn't click with me. Nobora is the first that does everything as I would expect it.

    There is a Gnome edition, but I hate Gnome, so I'm happy with the standard edition that comes with KDE.
    It has some cool Plasma stuff, but there is a pure KDE edition as well.

    So anyone who used Linux before and always was like "meh, it sucks": give Nobora a try.
    Even if its just for gaming. Steam comes out of the box and works quite well.
    I'm not a competetive shooter guy, so I don't know about stuff that heavily relies on anti-cheat mechanisms.

    One learns a lot about computers in general by using OSes like this.
    OSX with its BSD base is not that different once you have a look under the hood.
     
  18. fiction

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    Sure but would I really want to favor choosing an OS over choosing audio apps?
    The OS is only the platform. I don't get how people who already know which set of music applications they want to use, would start the trouble to choose the OS above all and then find out how far they can get with it?
    Linux and xBSD are fantastic OSes for a multitude of solutions, but not my prime choice for music creation today.
    But who knows, if computer manufacturers start selling their systems with Nobora instead of Windows installed, that might change something after a few years.
     
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  19. Andrew

    Andrew AudioSEX Maestro

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    FYI, 2 years later, Linux' numbers almost doubled:
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    Windows has a problem with thread scheduling on modern CPUs. If one can get 20% more plugins running on Linux due to better kernel multithreading and low latency handling, it's worthwhile to consider it. Also there are no update related surprises
     
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  20. Recoil ✪

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    The Linux community will start growing as people realize that on Linux you can also play the same games as on Windows, for free :metal:
     
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