How to auto sample a VST3i on windows?

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  1. Oneeyedstan

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    Maybe i don't really understand the issue, but you can run multiple instances of reaper at same time, if it would help...
     
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    yes sure, but you wrote about Patchwork and thats not working with Roland VST3 plugins and sampling inside ESC. I have tried that already for hours.

    Why would i need mutiple instances of Reaper? If one instance would be enough ...

    Thats why i asked for a detailed guide how to setup reaRoute as suggested above.
     
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    This is precisely what I tried to do with Patchwork & got the same results, at first I thought I'd cocked it up or was missing something vital in the chain, 3hrs later (after some reading) to my deep disappointment, I discovered the same thing... VST3 compatibility ughh, I'm following this thread in the hopes "a hero comes along" :guru::rofl:
     
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    Do not get me started on VST3 development.

    I did the gain juce example, VST2 build fine, while VST3 just didnt work after multiple compiling/building in VS2019 and it was not even clear why. Imo Steinberg fucked up in the design process and since nobody really considered VST3, they just removed the SDKs. If they hadnt done it, then everybody would still deliver VST3 version.

    Ohhh thanks!
    Let me see if might still have a freestyle license somewhere?
    Pianoroll is an option, but i want to find a permanend solution to this.
     
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    My opinion on VST3's is a given, I only started using them 12 or so months ago :rofl:I remember when VST3 was first introduced, every single plug I purchased with added VST3, the VST2 worked as expected, but the VST3 was always either buggy to the point of none-viability or was just completely broken, It put me off for years... Now however, none of us will have a choice, yay... :snuffy:
     
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  8. Quantised Noise

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    The auto-sampling built into FL Studio works fine with VST3s, only issue of course is then you're stuck with a DirectWave instrument, which limits usage to FL Studio unless you happen to have ChickenSys.

    edit: although I actually just got DirectWave Player working in Cakewalk (copy the directwave folder, delete directwave.dll leaving the 64bit VSTi 'directwave_x64.dll' alone), so I guess it's not the handicap I thought it became when directwave player seemingly died sometime after 20.0
     
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    606 below.
     
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    as i remember correct, the demo can also autosample :) the limitation is that you cant load autosampoled patches into their own sampler
     
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    Someone should just make a good 64bit one for PC. Copy Logic Autosampler to whatever extent possible.

    SampleRobot is probably why one doesn't exist. It fits the bill perfectly for what you want, but it is 400$ and way more than you need for the task. You need the Behringer Robot™. It could finish sampling the device and then automatically add it to their production schedule :)
     
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    I will have a go with that. A suggestion i havnt thought of!
    I thought about that, but its quite a big undertaking because you basically need to build a small DAW - to much for me right now and i am not even sure if Roland did things wrong? or if the VST3 design is just shit?! and therfore does not work in wrappers?

    I will see if i can get the Samplerobot license from a friend and try with that. But yes 400 bucks is just to much considering you could get FL and some extra plugins for that money.
     
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    Have you looked in Cubase 12 for a solution? I think Steinberg would be the most likely to have already "borrowed" this idea from Logic.

    I see it is more relative to DAW functionality, than plugin. It is just sending a Midi Note ON, and then recording for a specified duration of time, and saving it with its own random/generated filenames. But it is really working before the Sample Source's MIDI in to trigger, and then catching the audio at the end of the mixer strip signal chain. Along with any latency compensation it may have to do...sounds like that could be tricky? :dunno:

    For the 2 or 300 more they ask for Cubase, I find it hard to believe this isn't in there; in some fashion. But with a different term for the process.
     
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    Say goodbye to your job, your wife, your kid's, your time, life & sanity! It's a mammoth undertaking to get right, even for a vet. That's why SR cost's as much as it does for such a seemingly straight forward utility :no:

    If anyone else does it, PM me :rofl:
     
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    I am a Cubase/Nuendo user but I keep learning Reaper as I have time. Here is a long video. Be patient. It is actually a very interesting use of scripting. It might not be the route for everyone but I see this as ideas that can be useful
     
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    the latest Maschine can also autosample, but I am not sure if it can load VST3
     
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