DSP563xx Emulator. Finally some real progress (Access Virus, Nord Lead, TC PowerCore, Waldorf MW...)

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  1. Ayahuasca

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    Coming Soon....

     
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  2. chamun

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    can we find formant and grain complex modes in the emulation of the virus ti 2 ?
     
  3. Ayahuasca

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    Your DAW is lying to you, let me explain by quoting our lead developer....

    "The spikes are there because the DSP is running in a high priority backgroud thread. If the DSP is fast enough, the DAW will report a very low CPU consumption, even though this is not really true. If the DSP is too slow, it will report 100% instantly"

    I see you are running Linux so I’m not sure how you check, but if you run the equivalent to “Task Manager” you will see that the true cost of the emulator is much higher

    You can either get a more powerful machine (Ryzens and MAC M1 eat this thing for breakfast)....

    Or you can wait for us to bring our future performance improvements which we have planned sometime in the near future

    Glad you are enjoying the project and hope this answers your questions :)
     
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  4. The ABC

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    I'm so glad this is still being developed... When I see new synth roms at the stage the Virus is at now, it will be a glorious day.
    Keep up this great work, Ayahuasca and the team :wink:
     
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  5. SineWave

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    I have a "task manager", of course. It''s called "system monitor". :) The emulator itself is using 10-13% of the CPU and the plugin itself is jumping from 1-6%. I needed to make some adjustments to JACK to make DSP work more smoothly thanks to your developer's suggestions. :wink: I had to turn off "real-time priority" in JACK, so the DSP emulator has more room to breathe, so to speak. :) JACK developers themselves said that turning on "real-time priority" of JACK is not a good thing, but sometimes it works better, thus the option is there to try it.

    This new version with a new GUI looks astonishing, man! I mean you made it so easy to work with, the colours are just right... everything about it says "use me and abuse me"! :rofl: I must withdraw my previous statement about being satisfied with the GUI as it is! :rofl:

    You are really pulling this off absolutely great! I should join your Discord channel damn it, just to be in the flow all the time and I could help since I'm very experienced with IT. :)

    Thank you and cheers! :cheers: Keep rockin' people! :headbang:

    p.s. I think you can tell how excited I am with this project... and that's an understatement. :wink:
     
  6. Ayahuasca

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    The GUI version has now been made available in our Discord server in the past hour or so, so now could be a great time to join
     
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    having fun with the GUI version, loving the "soturation" :rofl:
    thank you so much, it is so much usable now to dial up own sound. One more thing I have a lot of .mid/.syx files collected everywhere, some even shared by our members here, but there are TI's soundbank among them. How is the DSPEMU handling those patches ? I mean, for starters a lot of features missing since it's a C emulation so definitely the sound generated is not accurate to the patches. Sometimes I don't even know the patches are the TI's or ABC ones. Any solution to that ? a warning or some sort if using wrong patches I guess.

    Hoping for a proper preset management system in the future. Copy, paste, Init & Rename like in Viper should be a good one.

    Anyway, the GUI is already a really big step, again thank you.
     
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  8. Ayahuasca

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    Drop me a message on Discord if you are a member there, I sorted all of my banks by checking if they loaded in the Virus Powercore (as it doesn’t recognise Ti banks) and arranged them all into a zip file

    Regarding the other features you mentioned, we have alot more coming soon
     
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    For those using Linux, I've resolved the problem easily using this python script which tells you what can you do to make your OS work better with audio: https://codeberg.org/rtcqs/rtcqs.git

    Just download the git, unzip, and run ./rtcqs.py python script. It will tell you everything. I corrected a few suggested things and now whole Reaper is working more smoothly, not just DSP56300 Emulator. I also get lower CPU utilisation with DSP56300. Not it's constantly around 8-10%. That's really not so bad for a 16-timbral synth. :headbang:

    Gosh I'm a very happy chap right now. :rofl: Going back to Virus C... :wink:
     
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  10. Mythos91

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    I have questions about this project? Will the Nord Modular G2 be done or is that built using another DSP? If so will any other DSP's be emulated say if this project is ever completed?

    Is there much point in doing the Microkorg seeing as Korg have done it themselves and will likely do the MS2000 at some point?

    It might some redundant but I'd like see the Virus A emulated as well as B and C models.

    What about other popular Digital synths like the JP8000/JP8080. Yamaha AN1x, Yamaha FS1R and original Nord Lead 1 and 2, I assume they use different and older DSPs?

    I will say this is a fascinating project.
     
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    If the synths are based on the DSP563xx Family and if they are no longer on sale, then they are on the list

    So far i know the Virus A being inspected, the Nord Modular G2 too, but it looks like something else is higher in priority right now.

    Other popular synths have different chips inside, which need different knowledge and/or are poorly public documented.

    Maybe somebody else will try to do them - but so far NO.
    If you have more questions you can join the discord, link you can find on the page: https://dsp56300.wordpress.com
     
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    I'd like to add that people should understand only pure DSP synths can be emulated much easier and sound 100% authentic (but without the AD/DA part which could be programmed but why?) like Access, Clavia, Novation, most of Waldorf and some Korg and Roland synths from the late 90s and early aughts. DSP synths are like plugins, 100% digital code which runs on these Motorola DSP chips. Anything that has CEMs and SE ICs in its audio paths has to be programmed and emulated in software from scratch (which is hard to make 100% authentic) because these are analogue chips - amps and filters and they accept only analogue inputs, so you have to emulate AD/DA converters in software, too.

    Read this multiple times if you don't get it. :wink: :rofl:
     
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  14. phumb-reh

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    Well, if you go along this path why not emulate the whole bedroom audiolab environment of the time... Perfect emulation of the DSP synth, then mimic the DA, then the Mackie mixers with pres overdriven, the semiparametric EQ, the cables that are in coils and the AD of the el-cheapo soundcard. Remember to add MIDI jitter and latency to add the inevitable homebrew "swing" and so on.

    Ahh, I feel old now. Good times! :yes:
     
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    For the Mackie sound try Airwindows:shalom:
     
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  16. phumb-reh

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    I've tried it and it's fun both Mackity and MackEQ. You still need the noise added for the true gritty sound :)

    I wish someone could emulate pots that need cleaning, mmm-mmh that crackle...
     
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    Oh yes! And a really noisy 60 cycle hum would be lovely too!:rofl:
     
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    I trust you. And I'm lazy as fuck so... I guess... I agree!!! :rofl:
     
  19. phumb-reh

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    iZotope Vinyl to the rescue!
     
  20. DoubleTake

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    But
    Well, it's true that some old-school analogue in the path of some products sounds good and some bad..
    At least now we can choose what to add in. If the original analogue stages were so good...
    Imagine buying a Virus just to obtain the DA + line-level stage..:rofl:
     
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