No, you aren't.

Not very impressed, sounds completely drowned in quality effects mostly.

I remember playing around with a few presets thinking, I could achieve the same thing, as far as creating VA synth sounds go, with Sylenth1 and a bunch of 3rd party effects. FALCON is like Kontakt or any of those synths like Avenger, Omnisphere the likes of those
The sample packs containing instrument samples are a different thing though, couldn't recreate those very easily with a Synthesizer.

To each his own I guess, I uninstalled Falcon though.

 

i thought i was gonna jump all over falcon and the soundbanks but for once i said no, maybe a few years ago, omnisphere is my go to synth and its so good, the same when they release eastwest play, again maybe 10 years ago i would take it, but apart from the vocal packs its all cinematic stuff, so thx but no thx and gr8 work R2R....................

 

you can draw out an 8 part midi drum loop and drag export it into the host in seconds in Drum Designer. or just use sounds from inside Falcon redirect it to Kontakt, AD/SD etc.

 

Choice is a good thing. Well done R2R for doing the biz with this plugin.

The sample based libraries of synths are huge though - 35Gb for the FM Suite? Am I missing something or could all the sounds from this be created using Arturia DX7 V (100mb in total) or Native Instruments FM8 (21MB) ??
Seems a bit of a waste of hdd space!

 

First I was sceptical about Falcon too, one more software for libraries (gigasampler wannabe) of somebody sampled his vintage box which loses the whole point of synth when you create you own unique sound.
I didn't install any libraries even default one just looked through what it's got to offer. And the more I tested it, my impression was changing and was WOW and they market it for the most part as a rompler? I began looking through the lua scripting, advanced sample mangling, sampling methods and this incredible tool opened to me. Making sample libraries is more user friendly than Kontakt. Falcon is as deep as you want it to be. Falcon can become even an algorithmic jazz machine.(https://github.com/johnclavin/luacode-uvi-falcon) Of course I would choose MSoundFactory over Falcon but there are things where Falcon is much better.

Watch this if you are not impressed than use Serum or Nexus what the crowd likes in our days

 

Please...Don't get your knickers/undies twisted in a knot!
My statement was that it is more of a Rompler than a sampler/synth.

Hybrid..Of course it is. Just like any other virtual instrument that uses waveforms, synthesis & samples. Some just do it better.
Omnishpere allows for more complex synthesis as a comparison.

I personally, would use it over Nexus, Kontakt & Avenger. Definitely not my first choice as a synth/sampler/rompler/workstation.

I do believe that the UVI spokesperson has himself, referred to UVi libraries as "Romplers".

 

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hehe, no its just...
of course one could make such an comparison
but at the same time look how manny you had to list to compare against.
on the other hand its like comparing say
ableton before and after max integration, or like bitwig before the grid.
imo i always look at it like what does it ad to my "world"
is there something this thing does better or equally good
tentatively, right now, its an omnisphere with a more logical structure.
or a reason with better sounds and sampler +!
the granular engine and the time stretch engine are top notch!!!
the filters are fantastic and if the drive & saturation sound equally great?
this is (probably) my new sampler.
fm is not the best but ive got fm7-8 for that anyway, but there are
those awesome libs too.
so its a lot to explore still

 

I am rather impressed, the sound banks are varied.... some too compressed...., the sound quality more than correct especially in the low frequencies, the adventurous programming part, good fx,.... nothing to see with a real synth of course, I am more for Kontakt, for the extent and the quality of sound banks, at least I am happy to have been able to test it

 

That's what I said basically. More of a Rompler than a sampler/synth.

 

What for example?

 

I am not saying that Falcon is useless. It just has a lot of competition both retail & free. The examples I listed were just that. A sampling of what is available to a specific task or something similar while, doing it better. Nothing more, nothing less.

This starting to remind me of the Acustica vs whatever plugin developer here.

 

Its overpriced if you consider you can get Air Hybrid synth for cheap as well as the addons.

 

You can apply to UVI as a sound designer. Some sound designers have FM hardware synthesizers at home and then make a sound library, which is of course all * .WAV files. Accordingly, the library is very large. When you make presets with the Arturia DX7, you are using the software that is purely digital, so libraries are small. FM8 is a virtual software synthesizer and you do not save any * .WAV files, only the settings that you have made with the FM8 (* .FXP). It is best to only install things that you would buy. In this way, the hard disks do not become a data grave.

 

i think that is partly to blame on uvi history
for instance, you hear sounds in worlds2 that, quality wise, stand out in a negative way.
because worlds1 is quite "old" (maybe too compressed), but on the other
hand everything is still usefull and what some (not you) find thin sounding, i quite like, since not everything is overproduced and you can make fit in the mix quite easy

 

Coming from the analog sound & synth world I am very comfortable creating patches from scratch to fit songs or productions.

Have you tried creating patches in Omnishpere using just the synth engine?
Have you ever witnessed someone like Eric Persing evolve a sound from a single sine wave?

Take a synth like Dune 3 without the waveforms and you still have a monster synthesis platform.

 

geez, we are just talking, i´m not attacking you

 

Right but what is the "more complex synthesis as a comparison" to Falcon?

 

Did not say you were...Just look at the overall conversation so far. Am I wrong?

Not saying it is as bad as the Acustica topics, just starting to remind of similar threads concerning Acustica as an example.

 

I spent the weekend cleaning my drives instead, managed to get C: 15gb cleaner, found some samples i liked, and practiced keyboard quite a bit. learned a couple new songs

 

I don't use omni either, just my preference.
for generating a sound for a song I would probably reach for massive, serum or one of the dedicated modelers like the legend or obsession. a few others too, but im least likely to open a hybrid

 

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