This should be Giancarlo's say, but I say lose the steampunk googles and replace them with headphones. ;)

 

There are no soap opera shows like this on TV these days!

 

cracks . cracks .. cracks ... some love cracks other more cracks

 

This thread rose like a boner

 

What plugins are based on Spectral EC engine? Do you try Tim P compressors for nebula? He achieved excellent results with VVKT. I'm not arguing with you. I see you know really well what is going on inside Aqua/Nebula. I mean that it would be cool if you would tell us what are the disadvantages of using VVKT for compressors. All I know about compressors based on VVKT from 3rd party developers is that it is very difficult to tune it right. But Tim P and Tim С achieved great results. Even some aqua compressors sound great. For example El Ray.

Prinz Eugen, would you, please, somehow crack nebula so that we can use multiple EQ bands with 3rd party developers' EQ libraries as it works in Aqua and in Nebula player?

 

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no that's not how you treat a REAL VIP

 

sorry, I'm a rookie here. I'm a member of nebula community long ago... since Giancarlo betrayed us... we lost hope... and now I see someone who can defeat him and save us...

where I wrote about compressors, I probably did not write it correctly enough due to the language barrier. It sounded pretty respectful in my native language, but I understand that I probably wrote it wrong in English. I have all respect for Prinz Eugen and just want to know more about different technologies in plugins. I mean that maybe she only person who can honestly tell what is going on with VVKT.
I corrected the last post to make it clearer. Hope I do it right. I am still learning English...

 

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bru its just a plugin company, not a Marvel film, hahaha, what even happened?

 

Nebula was a community effort when it all began. Four big 3rd party developers played a big role in studying VVKT and customers were like beta testers in those days. For example, compressors didn't work at all before Tim P understand how to do them correctly. In those days everyone lived in harmony. But at some point, Giancarlo realized that Aquas can give him more money than nebula and 3rd party developers were just competitors to him. After that, he decided not to introduce new technologies into the nebula to make Aquas look more comfortable to use than nebula. Yes, he introduced free version of nebula player and try to control 3rd party developers offering them an agreement. But NONE of the four big 3rd party developers (Tim P, Tim C, Alex B, AITB) accepted the agreement. All that we know It's not about the money. It is something else. But customers who bought nebula 4 didn't know that Giancarlo was planning to abandon nebula and is not going to implement there new functions. For example, you can't load all EQ bands in nebula in one instance, you need to load 4 instances of nebula for Neve EQ.
Imagen that NI decides tomorrow that all 3rd party developers like Spitfire are just competitors for them and will make their library use less comfortable than their own libraries.
Giancarlo constantly threatens that if we do not appreciate him and will be indignant, then he will even stop supporting the nebula and it will be completely forgotten.
I know what he will answer. That he has new great developers and they make great libraries. And they are actually great and I like those libraries too. But he sell nebula 4 to customers even though he knows that he plans to abandon it and he betrayed those who helped him at the very beginning.

 

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This is not true. We are not forcing them to switch to the free player. As a company we would prefer the new business model, but it is complete freedom.
So I think you are misinformed.
Mirco for example is still producing those libraries, he visits our officers regularly, at least once an year, and he created an acqua plugin too.
Also, the platform is very strict - programming side. So what 3rd party developers do is strictly connected with what we coded. If you hear it that good, it is because the framework is working as it should.

 

I think latest things we released is very good.
But I respect their work. We are betatesting libraries these days for new n4 releases

 

She is a ThunderCat!

 

Converting a filter to linear phase is dead easy.
But none of analog filters are linear phase.
The engine can play them, though

 

So tell Why all the best Mirco libraries were released for N4 and not for N4-player?

Giancarlo all that we asking you is to make it possible to load all EQ bands in one instance and FIX THE METER!!!

 

Yes, Mirco released Azure.
And we helped him to recover old libraries. For old nebula...

 

I know about Azure. But all of his others libraries are for N4.
Why couldn't you come to an agreement with Tim P, Tim C, and Alex B? What did you demand from them? become your sex slaves? why is it such a secret?

 

They prefer a model without royalties in a payware nebula, but some of them are going to switch.
I prefer the new model, because I think nebula should be a free player

We have a 1015 pages thread on GS. Are you going to replicate it here? ;)
For me the conversation is super cool if it is polite

 

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Tim С said that it is not about money. And I can't understand if they need to pay royalties, they will still fall on customers and we customers OK about paying more for libraries.

But in that thread still no answers to the main questions. Sorry, I cannot understand how this will interfere with your business if you add two features to N4. Just a possibility to load multiple bands to one instance of Nebula and fixing the meter. You have the powerful company with strong marketing. You already won. Tim P and Tim С will not be able to win customers from you. But if you do that EVERYONE will be happy and will love you

 

Well, ask him. We are not forcing.
We could make them stop, we never did it.


For your second question, there are a lot of things we did in the past. One of the requests is about stacking instances in n4, but it is not technically possible due to latency. You can "control" it if you are a developer, but of you leave this feature to the user, the song will be unplayable quickly. Daws hate latency. Stacking works very well if you have low latencies in each instance. This is not the case.

 

I'm in the process of designing some skins, still searching for the skin code to switch programs within one skin though... ;) ?