I agree with @Kwissbeats . Your statement is definitely debatable. Aliasing, like IMD, also serves as a tool for many musicians. Skillfully used aliasing can create a very specific edge for some sounds. Piano with clearly perceptible IMD on a dark D melodic minor 7-9 chord progression? Awesome!

 

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Speaking of comprehension, you said

(underlined by me) and

So this statement of yours

is debatable too.

 

Two decades worth of well-respected, Grammy winning music releases disagree with you. If aliasing can't be heard, the fact that there's numbers on a graph in Plugin Doctor doesn't mean anything,

There's more distortion and noise on these tube amplifiers audiophiles use, as well as on the most famous mixing consoles everyone dreams of using, than even the oldest stock plugin. If a plugin does what you need efficiently, fits in your budget and the sound is good, who cares if it's aliasing or not. Decapitator is one of the most used distortion plugins and it aliases like mad.

Sometimes aliasing is too subtle to be a problem. Sometimes aliasing is exactly the kind of dirty distorted sound you're after.

You're yet to demonstrate any knowledge of DSP here. If you looked at the forum thread on aliasing, you'd notice eg PA SSL 4000G has aliasing indeed - but the first aliased harmonic is at -75dB compared to the fundamental. I don't know about you, but having a sound at 0dB and -75dB at the same time means the -75dB is completely buried and inaudible. Also the testing was done with a signal at 0dBFS by most, which is technically right at the edge of clipping, and that of course produces nasty distortion that will alias. Anyone who's not "ignorant to DSP" would choose a more appropriate level of input signal.

Next time you might want to read about that language called English and what words use capital letters, and - perhaps more importantly - which do not. It also helps before a reply.

Tell this to audiophiles who prefer their noisy equipment, guitarists and their fans who use distorted amplifiers, and retro gaming fans who prefer to listen to 8-bit audio at 22kHz with significant aliasing.

Also to all these idiots who mix and master award winning stuff using these garbage mixing desks and outboard hardware, as opposed to the technically kosher plugins.

 

I see, 2+2=5 in your Reality
Well then, Stay Ignorant

 

oh we have a genius in engineering it seems. never posting sources, audio examples (the most important), not even linking that bs audio doctor "comparison" that that one guy made who pushed the plugins that emulate analog gear beyond its original possibilities to prove a point

 

Says the person who is obviously not able to use the technical conditions to his advantage and therefore divides the world into good and bad.

You want people to take you seriously? Do it like an adult: Provide reasons and facts for your statements.

 

I never heard someone listen to music and say "wow do you hear that aliasing of the plugins!"

I am a simple man, if I like the sound of a plugin, I use it. If I do not like it I do not.

 

laughing in Decapitator in millions of songs out there.

 

Just sayin'.

 

We need more math fights around here, I can barely count to Dmin7

 

Bro, that's easy. D minus 7 = W.

 

This thread is becoming a candidate for the humor section, don't you think?

 

I like using the shadow hills class a , spl iron . I’m also using two klark teknik kt 76 analog compressors which are brilliant they sound great on anything . Love using the all buttons mode on a drum bus .

 

I'm not sure if those that have replied to me are
Retarded/Low IQ or just Ignorant, Triggered Midwits.

Trying to Insert your Opinions as Fact is not Fact
It's always the Low IQ that get Triggered.


The amount of Bad/Misleading Information
Not knowing the difference between Analog vs Digital signals.


And,
Yes Sinus Well, do it like an Adult!
Are you wearing your Clown outfit while you pleasure yourself talking about Reaper?

 

Yes, Everytime you talk Reaper.

 

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Wow, resulting to insults, makes me think that you're the only one getting triggered. No one says plugins don't have aliasing, it's just that is either unnoticeable or not a issue. You keep insulting instead of proving your statements with audio examples/articles etc like a "high IQ" individual as you make it seem.

 

Ah... very clever, indeed.

Can you offer anything more than your ad personam and ad hominem aruguments or is that all you've got, my little troll?

 

I bet you're so rational you only use Logic and Reason.

But please Present your Facts and Good Information when it comes to Analog vs Digital signals.

 

I am so rational that sit in forums online and shill Reaper Daw.



Please, put down your Soy-Latte.

 

OK guys, thanks for the recommendations. I think it's enough now with this discussion.