Selling playlists

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  1. Highdom

    Highdom Kapellmeister

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    How can one legally sell a playlist of mp3 on the internet? Which licenses are needed and how to get them (if possible)?

    I usually collect tracks in playlists for my personal use but I'm realising that people around me ask for them more and more frequently and I'd like to share them on a larger scale.

    Thanks for any further pieces of advice!
     
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  3. Talula

    Talula Rock Star

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    if that people ready to pay for music and ready to buy music legally, you can share them only names of songs.
     
  4. triggerflipper

    triggerflipper Audiosexual

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    So you wanna take other people's music, make a playlist, then sell it ?

    Damn.
     
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  5. Highdom

    Highdom Kapellmeister

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    okok I got it, just asking
     
  6. No Avenger

    No Avenger Moderator Staff Member

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    Right, what a weird idea. Oh, wait...

    [​IMG]
     
  7. recycle

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    Yes, it is possible: it is called "compilation"
    I made various for Freyr, basically you choose the music from their catalog
    They are then in charge to distribute album for all the different streaming platform (Spotify, Apple Music etc)
     
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  8. BaSsDuDe

    BaSsDuDe Audiosexual

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    20 years ago you'd be in and out of a courtroom for breaching copyright if you did that. Now since Spotify and Daniel Ek the extortion entrepeneur, I suppose anything goes.
    Theoretically, you have just explained in one question why there is no music industry anymore because 20 years ago, nobody would have considered asking that question.
     
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    No Avenger Moderator Staff Member

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    NO! OP asked for a legal way and this way is a compilation (sometimes called sampler) as @recycle said correctly and that was legal 20 years ago too (that's why I uploaded the pic).
    If OP found a unique order of tracks which people really like, why not thinking about making money with it?
     
  10. AbsoluteMadLad

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    spotify playlists?
     
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  12. triggerflipper

    triggerflipper Audiosexual

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    Yeah, pre-internet music distribution is a solid point of reference for comparisons lol.
     
  13. Strat4ever

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    anyone can make their own playlists of songs that they like easily, what makes you think that they would be stupid enough to pay you for your playlists. this is a totally ridiculous idea.
     
  14. Bandit

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    This is already happening!!! Playlists that say, we have 20k followers, pay us xx and we put you on our playlist.

    For those that doubt me, here is one, they even promote it on Instagram:
    Hi.

    1 track for 2 months is for €40

    2 tracks for 2 months in our playlist €75

    3 tracks for 2 months in our playlist €100

    it will get you 7000 to 10.000 streams per track in a month

    https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1J4fEzoxbfL0Yad80XKhEQ?si=GN9y5_nlSg-65OP4qCTBow&dl_branch=1
     
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  15. BaSsDuDe

    BaSsDuDe Audiosexual

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    Seeing I was around then, may I suggest looking at how many lawsuits were around for people sampling other people's material versus today? Perhaps as much as ten times. Everyone freaked out then as it was considered unskilled theft then when people had to sample steal other people's music to make up a tune they could not create themselves or not write something of their own. Times and viewpoints do change and have changed. It was around, but anything more than two seconds at one point (which changed) was considered a breach. Led Zeppelin sued a couple of people as but one of many.

    Compilations, as they were known then (and even in the 1970s), were released by companies (e.g. K-TEL records as one of many) where all the copyright royalties went to the publisher and artist who composed the tunes, not to glorified used-car salesmen who composed jackshit. They only took about 10-20% of sales and not up to 99%.
     
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    Doesn't matter at all since he's asking for a legal way.
     
  17. BaSsDuDe

    BaSsDuDe Audiosexual

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    Tell him to ask Daniel Ek or Bezos. Using anyone else's creations without their permission or payment to the owners should be illegal, but it seems it is not anymore. Apparently, these days, anything goes. It seems that anything can be legal if you can get away with it these days.
     
  18. recycle

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    @Highdom
    I'd like to listen to one of your playlist (youtube, Spotify etc..): why do't you share it here?
     
  19. Smoove Grooves

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    And it's still legal now!
    You just need a label and a publisher, and you pay for licenses to the current, happening tracks you want to borrow for your compilation, and if you are savvy you will add your own tracks to the compilation.
    "glorified used car-salesman"
    = NOW That's What I Call Music
    Ministry Of Sound (admittedly mixed/segued nicely)
    Hed Kandi
     
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    ... is not all at what this thread is about. Please stop this off-topic argument.
     
  21. BaSsDuDe

    BaSsDuDe Audiosexual

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    Certainly, perhaps you should have said that on the very first post because my replies were based on legality (topic) and your concept of 20 years ago (your post before mine) was wrong, it has changed in how the legality is handled now.

    Here are the ASCAP licensing laws as they exist today.
    https://www.ascap.com/help/ascap-licensing
    And streaming license information
    https://www.easysonglicensing.com/p...-licensing/music-licensing-for-streaming.aspx

    Info on streaming/playlists are covered briefly in the 2nd link and everything you need to know about 'why?' in licensing is in the ASCAP link - There's a sub-menu for in-depth on most apsects.
     
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