this is a good example. converting the samples would be about the same process than converting the end result. so you had a good reason to mix in 48.

 

that discussion gets boring after 25 years, but for reference:

you ONLY dither for CD masters (or of you are paranoid, for 24 bit masters))

you NEVER dither when you will apply further processes to the file - for example such as compressing to mp3.

 

arrrgh all the differing opinions

 

There are two worlds out there: Film (48khz) and music (44.1).
You certainly won't benefit from mixing in 48khz when you convert down to 44.1.
It might be worth mixing in 88.2 or 96 and converting, but from 48 to 44.1 does more damage than any good.
I would sugest mixing in the sampling rate of the end product.

and btw: sure 16 bits are enough... but why bother, do 24 bit and dither down to 16 bit.
unless you're on an Athlon from 1998.

 

Did he say anything about having it in 48khz and having some streaming service it converting down to 44.1 (badly)?
Sure you can do an awesome job.. as long as people let you.

 

Yeah right… a simple sine at 44.1 k will be saw… compared to 96 kHz. LOL, not really.

You know what sample rate of 44.1 kHZ actually means, do you? It means that it scans the audio at a rate of 44.100 times… per second.I pretty much doubt than anybody in the world can hear the difference of a sine waveform of lets say 500 hz recorded at 44.1 kHz vs 96 kHz. You know why? because a sine is a super predictable shape without overtones. The speaker you play it back on won't even be able to physically replicate the minute mathematical differences between the additional 2,17 times more data of sample points within one second of audio.

The only plausible reasoning for using 96 kHz all the time is high quality recording of live instruments with high quality analog gear in the chain. So basically not Bedroomprodcers who like to argue on forums about why you should 96k ALL The time :D

 

Ah, thank you. Another misconception of mine.
If I was just to just print a 320Kbps Mp3 from my project, Logic also creates the .wav or aiff to do that.
Was under the impression it dithered it before hand! lol.
This is why I hand the mixdown over and walk away!

 

But Logic pro can't export FLAC.

 

Don't feel like reading through a gorillian pages but there can be a huge difference between using Oversampling or using a higher sampling rate depending on the plugin. A lot of them fuck up the OS so you are always safer just using a higher SR.

Oh and BTW here is an entire paper arguing for why 48khz is better
https://www.grammy.com/sites/com/files/recommendations_for_hires_music_production_09_28_18.pdf

So you make the mp3 out of the 24 bit file instead?

 

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Did I understand you correctly and did my translator translate it correctly, how is the operating system supposed to break?
Can you explain that a little more? I've been using 44.1 / 24 bit for ages!

 

OS ≠ Operating system
OS = Oversampling

 

Thanks @Sinus Well, you are always a great help here.

 

I thought it was a common abbreviation for Oversampling cause I have seen it being used everywhere else

 

I come from another country, I have to translate a lot with the Google Translator and hence the misunderstandings.
Here in Germoney, OS stands for Operation System. Greetings from the jungle of abbreviations.

 

Germoney... sounds good, I like it.

If you really need a translator, try deepl. it does a much better job.

 

That's close to a disagree.

 

I'm german too but I meant more digital spaces like gearslutz ^^'

 

The 0hz is kind of the signal DC offset if you think about it. Just talking out of my ass but it almost makes sense.
Then again I'm half-drunk right so...

 

... both, Operating System and OverSampling, depending on the context.

 

almost everyone does it wrong. which is no wonder with all the plug-ins with dither built-in. but it is really basically only useful for making CD masters.