I understand that one is required to shut "System Integrity Protection" to install cr@cked apps but can you turn it back on and still use that software?

What exactly an SIP do ?

 

apple website? wikipedia? google? main info:

https://developer.apple.com/documen...ling_and_enabling_system_integrity_protection

any software, not only cracked.

hum... maybe gooog...?... aaaah, ok.
just turn it back and check with installed cracked app. if app will stop working, you can turn off sip again. what's the problem?

 

y0u won't believe it, I make Carbon Copy clone back ups all the time, always have a fresh system backups, then after using a Russian copy of photoshop (no installation required) both my clones and drive wacked out on me, I restarted in recovery mode and installed the system my computer came with, no choice because the matching EFI firmware can only be obtained like this (yet apple has been modifying their older installers to obsolete systems, and sadly the system it came with was high Sierra, no support for AFPS drives

so after finally getting the correct EFI back and upgrading to Catalina using a external USB key I got to the AFPS carb copy clones, sadly, all the apps on the back ups where also compromised, roughly half the size or less, yet their icons remained intact...usually you get this grey icon indicated incomplete installed software..example, Firefox was 500kb, same with IK multimedia stuff, none would open of course., ext box but is not seen at all by my computer now..

I tried digging around and found weird stuff like this extension called DONT STEAL FROM MAC or something like that....

Do you think turning on SIP again will help prevent stuff like this cause it sounds like malware.

 

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https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/39733-dont-steal-mac-os-xkext/

 

do you really think that your message contains all the information and that other people will be able to correctly understand the essence of the problem?

if I understood your words correctly:

you downloaded and launched the app you got from a stranger, right? this is a serious reason to suspect that the system has been infected with a virus. but this one fact cannot be 100% proof.

before that the backups were in a different format and did you restore them without problems? and now their format has been changed, and you are sure you made them in the right format, right? okay, let's say...

do you remember the size of all previously installed apps? it's very hard to believe...
how did you know that these applications have changed size?

then how did you start the system?

what are you doing? and how do you do it?

 

well thanks for been patient, I came here to check on replies and realised I had disconnected from the net before sending off the edited version of my post with me correcting the horrible Apple Auto spelling errors.

let me reply here line by line
you asked:

there is a way...how ever AFPS is a proprietary system only Apple has access too, although Diskwarrior still has no full access to help people recover drives Apple claims are dead they have publicly stated that its possible but apple is refusing to share the access legally...to force obsolete older machines, they are basically extorting customers into buying new machines by breaking them..if your EFI firmware is messed up the computer won't be able to see hardware components., way to. go apple, congress should put Tim Crook in prison for hundreds of years for this.

All hard drives are formatted AFPS fo work with Catalina, I've been restoring backs ups frequently during testing goodies., there are serious questions about Apple abuses here with privacy, monopoly via security updates and forced obsoletion...

Apple replaced the EFI firmware for previous systems to extort customers into buying new machines, they also added AFPS support for Majovie!, this is sneaky of them.. recovery companies like Diskwarrior can not fully access AFPS drives to rescue you files., you are told to put all your files online next time or back up, but now I see back ups been attacked as well.

The original system which came with my machine was high Sierra..it does not support or see AFPS hard drives...but it restored the correct EFI firmware version so the hardware ran.....I mentioned in my post that I had to upgrade to Catalina in order to see the AFPS drives which contain the CARBON COPY clones of my system...but get this one, during the upgrade path to Catalina the fastest method was a USB key, recovery mode only allows you to choose the system your computer came with or the latest system, Big Sur which is worse., and I found out btw Apple removed Maverick from the online store all together because it contains all the EFI firmware versions that match all machines until 2019!,...many tricks and twists here.

So after I get to the clone I realise every single version has corrupted files, you. cants see it as the I cons for the apps are fine..but the files are all in Kbs if not 1 quarter the size.

yes, I have back ups of original installers and the apps on another hard drive...its obvious that Logic and Final Cut Pro are More then 1GB and not 500k.,its why im asking around..

recovery mode, re install system computer came with online, upgrade to Catalina using USB key,

I uploaded the correct post with out the spelling errors lol

 

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so what do you make of this, people keep talking about it like its hype, do you know when Apple added this kext?

Here I discovered it using Little Snitch diagnostics
139 0 0xffffff7f83e4e000 0x5000 0x5000 com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X (7.0.0) EF455733-D4BE-3816-AC3B-5A3BE0B9EE18 <15 10 8 5 3 1>

Im looking at this link https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/300871-what-does-this-kext-do/ as it explains how to remove the Kext extensions using the terminal

 

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it is pre-installed apps. they will download latest version from appsttore after first running.

don't waste your time.

I can tell you that you got a paranoia, but... just good luck!

 

Turning off Gate Keeper is actually more relevant when installing K'ed software than turning off SIP. SIP is just annoying in some cases - similar to WIndows UAC asking for your permissions all the time to do stuff. So for convenience I've turned it off. Since I am using a Hackintosh with OpenCore I can do this by a value in the config file.

For security concens you should leave it enabled though.

That Dont steal mac osx kext is just Apple's way of saying "Don't steal our code" type of thing. It doesn't do anythinng.

 

paranoia? for someone with a sister site that provides goodies its no paranoia to wonder if you and a few others are phishing....

you see people who download pirated software even in Terabytes can be warned a few times and only be charged for an offence if they profited over $50k

but developers who directly or indirectly spread laced software end up on a national security list, they pay between $100k-$250 and or up to 20 years in prison depending on the motive and matter, this also applies to agencies such as NSA which publicly state that they where not created to spy on Americans under:
United States Code Title 50, Chapter 36, Subchapter 1
Section 1809. Criminal sanctions

 

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yea, based info I read it seems to point to mackintosh users...using PC hardware

 

no, I'm on MBP.

 

This Kext is present in ANY macOS install, independent of the hardware… because it's included in the macOS installer. This is not an issue of PC users running macOS on PC Hardware!!! The MAIN reason why it was discovered is because Hackintosh users are basically the only ones of the macOS Users who have to dig around the depths of the file system and the Extension Folder specifically to get the system working. And that's how this kext became known to a broader demographic.

It literally does nothing besides beeing Apples geeky way to leave a message to Hackers etc.

 

Last edited: Aug 16, 2021

Unless you have a new m1 chip everything you said about my thread was total Apple hogwash to confuse hackers right?
You must of known that older MBPs depend on re installing the original system that came with the machine via recovery mode if the computer is bricked due to reseting SMC-Mismatch EFI firmware etc., And Apple not only admitted to tampering with those installers (to force obsolete older MBPs) but instead of removing their own tampered installers they removed Mavericks from the Apple store and the access for machines depending on it in recovery mode...and because of some pressure from congress they listed the matching firmware and links to download it since January 2021, but they still don't stop scamming people and calling them paranoid whenever they are caught red handed (like you lol) instead they continue bribing their brown noses

Now if your un aware that you can downgrade older MBPs, even extend their possibilities, run Big Sure (MBPS dating back to 2006..here is Apples link to obtaining the firmware (possible in DFU modes)..having fast SSDS means faster computer .
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201518

Here is a decent site with facts to how Apple designed their products so cleverly to break at their conveniences.
https://eclecticlight.co/2021/03/23/how-to-update-your-macs-firmware/
Firmware scams by Apple go on and on to confuse customers...hoping they give in a buy a new Mac,
Apple makes a min of $450 million dollars an hour world wide (after expenses) and they invested over 2 billion in their monopoly (not innovation) Apple is basically in the business of cheating the public....

Here is some more manipulating info showing that you can install an older OS if you change the date using the terminal

 

Last edited: Aug 16, 2021

@Mike Hunt

1. Your explanations about installing OSX on older MBPs are wrong! You can install OSX on ANY Intel based MacBookPro from 2007/08 up to now using a bootable USB device (HDD or USB Stick for that matter)! No Rcovery Disk required per se.
2. The Recovery CD/DVD included in a MacBookPro were just whatever the current OS was but it was limited to this device and not a Retail installer. That's the only restriction of these recovery instaler disks.
3. You can find disk images of ANY OSX GM version on archive.org.And if you bought Mavericks in the App Store you can still download it from your purchases section.
4. Online Recovery was introduced with OSX Lion if I recall correctly. So once you are able to get Lion on it (if the System Difinition supports it) you can just run the recovery from within Lion and also Download Mavericks from the App Store if you bought it.
5. What you are saying about running Big Sur on a MBP from 2006 is completely false!!! Not going to happen in this reality. Big Sur is a 64 bit only OS. MacBooks from 2006 use 32 Bit Intel Core Duo processors. Second of all they use Intel on-boord graphics which there are not even drivers included in any 0SX versions for about the last 10 years at least. Other than Windows, Apple drops old drivers with every new iteration of macOS in order to force users to upgrade their hardware. The way they do it is by specifyning the minimun system definition in order install the OS. You can extend the lifetime of a MBP using DosDude's patchers which brings back drivers etc so you could install newer macOS versions, but you can't magically flash 64 Bit architecture on an old 32 bit chip. End of story.

I'd highly appreciate if you stopped spreading all this false information.

 

This kext is thetre for ages, I would bother with it at all , and why >! paranoia ?

 

you can remove it, cause it allows apple to install malware aka a incompatible EFI firmware update, this is explained in the links I shared with you.

recovery mode...online only, but if they bricked it via malware aka a bad mismatch of firmware then your ethernet or wifi will need a local USB install.

no CD slot on my machine, Apple explains why they update older installers modifying their so called security updates, in fact you can download them separately..so you know what they areal are

Mavericks is no longer available in the Apple store., Apple also colluded to discontinue any support for web browsers using security updates to basically kick of any browsers from the platforms...this was mentioned in congress when Apple justified adding head of cyber security from NSA after Wikileaks started exposing pedophile rings in the government including Tim Cook himself who scrambled to cover up he was involved, gay and later admitted part of it.

sadly your wrong...you can run anything on any machine...as long as you know how to prevent Apple from intervening which is almost impossible, since the head of cyber security at NSA went to Apple they have built a network with other big tech companies and forced developers to work with them in collecting info, this was already news to congress when Apple was been pressured about their monopoly and evidence wikileeks published revealing pedophile rings and that Tim Cook was part it them as well, how ever Mr Crook scrambled and covered it up by coming out of the closet.

Anyway, pasted from this link:https://eclecticlight.co/2021/03/08/why-is-firmware-so-troubled/

So what's the solution, how ar you guys using cracks or running older apple computers with older OSs" you can't..

Apple not only stopped safari from loading their own firmware links but they colluded in the act of forced obsoletion by pressuring out all the browser developers using security updates so they no longer load or work on older Macs or systems.

Example, Lets say you have a 2013 iMac, shipped with mavericks, your out of luck cause Firefox won't run on it, chrome won't run on it...firefox claims support is extended but dream on...not the Mac versions https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-mac-osx-users-esr

So tell me how can you run older Macs, update to Catalina (not Big Sur which has even more issues) and also run 3rd party hardware like m1SSD upgrades and have no issues with cracks?

 

Last edited: Aug 18, 2021

@Mike Hunt

YOU
CANNOT
RUN
64 BIT CODE
ON A CPU
WHICH CAN ONLY
UNDERSTAND 32 BIT
CODE INSTRUCTIONS!!!

END OF DISCUSSION

You know, I've been using macOS since 2008 and been into Hackintoshing since 2013. I think I know a bit more about EFI and SMC then the usual macOS user - like you! So you either show me a macBook Pro from 2006 you configured running Big Sur or shut up. And don't bore me with this NSA backdoor conspiracy shit either.

 

EFI on PC is no the same,
my cpu is 64 bit, apple considers Macs more then two years obsolete, and google analytics is not a some conspiracy theory, its real, sale with 19 eyes etc, just use little snitch and or watch your activity

but your on a PC from what you described., Apple obtains the right to control the info about EFI on Macs, according to the links I shared they only shared info about matching EFI after facing heat from congress for operating a monopoly.

 

where are that "some more info showing that you can install an older OS"???

where did you saw anything about older OS in this document?
you call it proof, but this instruction does not prove what you are saying.

ooo, yeah... this is a serious source of information - the blog. blog of designer and artist.
do you consider him a specialist? he just writes what he thinks. no evidence, no facts. just the words of some dude.

ok...
where did you get this information? from twitter, right?

if you think that you are being deceived and you do not like it, then buy yourself a PC and do not use Apple products.