NI Electric Sunburst: How to change the voicing in a track?

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  1. Wolfang

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    I found there are no key switches for voicings. Then how could you change them in a track? Probably, should I make multiple tracks for each voicing?

     
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  3. DoubleTake

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    What exactly do you mean by "Voicings"?

    I see the keyswitches of Electric Sunburst (circa 2018, non-Deluxe)
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    I just downloaded the Deluxe in error, instead of the non-Deluxe.
    It looks like this
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  5. Wolfang

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    You can see Voicing 1 button on the right middle side. You can change it while you are playing, but can't in the sequencer. eg) You made a track with Sunburst and wanna change while your DAW plays. But there is no option for it.
     
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    Ahh, I thought you had the non-deluxe so i had not tested the keyswitching or controls.
    I see a "Voicing 1" button (voicing controlling the root note, 5th , and other notes) on the Deluxe, and yeah - i do see the keyswitches for voicings...i was confused at first, but the keys "C1 - F" are those for voicings.
    Check placing those keyswitch notes on different octaves as DAWs vary what they consider 'C1'.
    In FL Studio it is C3-F3.
     
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  9. Wolfang

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    No, No. The Keys "C1-F" are for the patterns, but not for voicings. Even non-deluxe version also has the same function. What I want is to change the VOICINGS while it plays. You can only change it by yourself manually. I'm not sure how to describe it better than this.
     
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    Then explain what YOU mean by "voicings".
    The keyswitches change what THEY call "Voicing 1", "Voicing 2" etc.
    See the listing they have:
    Voicings.jpg

    So, yes, yes, THEY call them "Voicings".
    What do YOU mean? (A better way to describe it, might be to asnwer:
    In WHAT WAY way does what YOU call "voicing", CHANGE THE SOUND?
     
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    The voicing is the manner, pitch and shape of any given chord. That is what he's talking about - its not subjective.
     
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    I was talking about what the VSTi calls "Voicings".
    He says those are not voicings.
    OK, so i read and see it is simply the arrangement of notes in the chord.


    Well, the VSTi is just changing the chords, as he says...
    and no keyswitching for the voicings...
    So it seems they are using the term in a different way as the different "voicings" (1-5) all seem to share the root note, and normally a different voicing would be shifting those?
     
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  13. SWEFF

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    Hey, I don't know if you ever found a work around but I had an idea after stumbling upon this while searching for the answer myself.
    Just load the same pattern on another keyswitch and adjust the voicing for one of them. This way you don't need a whole other track just for a voicing change. Worst case is that you need a lot of patterns for a particular track and run out of slots.
    I'm not sure why they don't let you automate these things....maybe there's a way to get under the hood to find the right knob that controls that section (among others). It can't be that it's slow to load the change because I've clicked on the voicings manually during playback just fine.
    ANYWAY, I hope this workaround works for you. :)

    image_2022-04-18_135144524.png image_2022-04-18_135155615.png
     
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    I see what happened here to cause confusion. The keyswitch name next to the voicing drop down menu is to let you know which pattern you're about to change the voicing for. It's not calling the "pattern" a "voicing". It's just matching up the keyswitch key to the voicing.

    image_2022-04-18_141035702.png

    It was probably easier to just put the keyswitch key in that little space in place of the long pattern names.
     
  15. Wolfang

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    Thanks for the answer, but I think it doesn't work when you mixdown. It can help when you just play though. I also don't understand why they don't let us control it. It's pretty important though.
     
  16. Wolfang

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    Ah, I should upload the screenshot for it. It is really confusing.
     
  17. SWEFF

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    Yes, that's true. It won't record your mouse click of the voicings as automation but that part was a sidenote :P

    Let me know if loading the same pattern twice and changing the voice of one works as mentioned in the first part though.
     
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    You might add @SWEFF to the "Best Answer".
    It doesn't show who gave that answer!
    [edit: meaning in quotes on the original post ]
     
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  19. Wolfang

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    Huh? I don't understand what you mean. I definitely gave @SWEFF the Best answer though.
    Of course, I'm grateful to you as you tried to explain it hard, but somehow it didn't work. It's part of my fault though. I should the screenshot that @SWEFF did.
     
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    Oh
    Oh it is very clear on HIS post, but on your original post at the very top, his username is not shown ...
    So, you see your quote and then his words (and pics) below it, but his name does not show there.
    That is all I meant
     
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