Hey all, been working with the Beta of Live 9.1. I was pretty excited to hear that they would support dual monitors, since that is a big part of my workflow when creating. Unfortunately it doesn't mean being able to detach various windows and arrange them however you want, but it is nice to be able to work in the editing views and still see the arrangement or session screen... any way here is the dual monitor capability in action, in case anyone was curious how it looks (nothing too earth shattering, but a nice improvement)

 

SEX!!! Totally useful *yes*

 

Im sure they're gonna implement Bitwig style changes to Live as Bitwig get closer to it's release. Live is just gonna keep getting better in my opinion.

 

Honestly that's one update I don't need at all - working on one big monitor and partly on my laptop screen for years now it would be rather distracting to have my content on two screens. But it's always nice if companies try to improve their products.

 

So now they have what all others DAW have.
Still missing the 32/64 bits bridge but who knows, maybe next year ...

This DAW is the most original DAW on the market with stunning possibilities and real new approach, truly taking advantage of computers.
But on another hand, they just go retarded with some so simple things that any other DAW have.

 

If people are complaining about things other DAWs have, then they just should switch to those DAWs then.

I try to keep a very basic, fundamental path to my music production to keep things simple and efficient, and as I often work away from home on my notebook only, I wouldn't want to get used to having two or more monitors now and then. Having a full blown studio I guess things are different.

But perhaps you guys can enlighten me a bit, what are the real advantages having two monitors then, especially with Live?

 

Dokx I understand your arguments but you are not the only one user. Besides each user can have more than one situation to use this DAW.
Multi monitors system is an old and basic function.
I really would like to use it, as I think it is by far the more modern DAW actually.

But honestly, I don't want to have to choose between using 64bit DAW so be forced to abandon some of my good 32bits plugins, or buy their new versions.
Then buy a DAW to a company that just oblige its users to do that kind of choice, it's NO NO for me.

So you'r right, as you say, all in all, finally I user another DAW.

 

The biggest advantage for me is being able to leave more windows open at a time. It's basically like having a bigger desk where you can spread out all the things you are working on.

 

Don't get me wrong, a 64bit bridge is a different thing because it has nothing to do with Live's philosophy (which has always been: a musical instrument especially designed for laptop purposes). I'd like to have a 64bit bridge rather than dual monitor support btw.

But they already stated that they won't offer a 64 bridge and recommend using the 32bit version, so I already gave up on that. What they imply is: If you want more, go elsewhere.

As I said in another thread: Live is a DAW crafted mainly (not only of course) for perfomance/live music production/DJing - so if some features are missing which are e.g. in Cubase or other standard DAWs, it is a 'failure' by design. So Live will never get those elaboratet Midi capacities Cubase has, nor scoring etc, because in a live situation, you just don't need that. And if you go for orchestral scoring, there are indeed much better programs out there.

 

Yes, I've read their curved arguments about "you know 64bit is almost useless"
Ableton please....

I work with huge Kontakt banks and instruments. And songs that easily come up to 40 tracks.

I could do that with 32bit system/DAW.

I believe that Ableton Live deserve more than that, it can do much more than perfomance /live music production/DJing.

Beside it is not cheap enough to justify these choices that just don't respect some of their own users will.

 

Well it's all about marketing priorities - finally they have to sell their product in a market with Cubase, Logic, Sonar, Reason, Studio One etc.

So competing with a battelship like Cubase is rather pointless, but having a USP with Push, developing the No.1 performance tool is much more promising. And they have only resticted ressources, they are not Apple in that respect.

Of course it would be awesome to have all those things Cubase has, but who knows what the future developement brings.

 

Thank god for virtual ram! 32 bit works fine for me.
Dual monitor mode will be a nice option though in the future.

 

I've always banged on for this to happen, but I'm not sure if I'll really use it that way.
As it is, I do everything in arrangement view on 1 monitor, and use the other 1 to display my plugins when I have them open. The only plugs I have open all the time on my 2nd monitor is a limiter, and a spectrum analyzer from the master.

It works for me just fine this way. Perhaps having the piano roll on a different screen could be of some use
Detachable windows would obviously be better but I don't know if that could be implemented into live.
I'm still on 9.02 which is working great for me I'm in no hurry to update atm.

 

Literally the first thing that came out of my mouth was "That's pretty useless"... Maybe if they made some sort of sliding pane setup where you could scroll through left to right to get arrangement, live, mixer and maybe a screen that is dedicated just to the GUIs of instrument VSTs.

 

I'm with Dokx on this, Live is not like other sequencers & should never try to be. The Gui is by far the best i have used of all DAWs although not perfect. I hope they look at improvements rather than mirror other sequencers. This dual monitor support works ok, I haven't used it much & lso other push improvements are good. For me the big negative with live is the browser.

 

Funny thing, the browser is the only improvement I really love - makes it so much easier to grab my VSTs and samples. All other new things (curved automation, audio to midi, clip automation recording) I don't use/need most of the time.

 

cool opinion bro...