is it posible to do this? when i use the send and returns i hear my audio chanel and the return chanels i only want to hear the audio channel effected.
i want to give each channel a bit of reverb and delay so ive got two returns set up with a delay on one an the reverb on the other.

 

Your question isn't perfectly clear... however if your sends are PRE fader you can apply effects without hearing the direct channel provided that you have turned down the fader

 

Also be sure to check out for feedback problems

 

right thanx for the replies. well i want to send some reverb to 15 channels but i dont want to hear the effect thruu the send channels only the audio channels.(my percs hats drums with effect reverb or delay)
sorry what do you mean about feedback

 

I don't really understand what you're asking. Try to walk us through it more clearly.

 

Me too...
I'm confused...

Maybe send your tracks their output to a group channel and send that to your fx channels ?
I don't get the problem...
:-(

 

This is schematic of standard sends to fx channels

Code:

pure signal to master
out     out                               fx signal to master
|       |                                out  out
|       |                                 x   x  
|       |                                 |   | 
|       |                               rev  del
ch 1    ch 2                               |   |
|       |                                 |   | 
|       |                                 |   |
+------------vol---------> rev/del fx >---+---+
sends

explain what do you want to do ?

If you want to hear only fx channels, without pure signal, just use pre-fader sends. In Live there is an option "only sends" on channel.

from where you want to send ?

If you rise send on percussion channels you will hear only that channels effected on fx channel. You choose what to send.

In your quotation, you want to hear fx only on primary channels ? In that situation you must use fx individualy on every single channel you want.

 

Try recording only the output of your "Return" channels seperately. I do it, so yes you can do it.
Create a new audio track to record with, then select the "FX" return channel for the "record" channels input. It will then only record your effected sounds.

 

Hi there.
Remember that a send>return config is just a copy from the dry/original track you want to process. You 'duplicate' your track to process the second one, and blend it with your original.
That´s why a common use in that config is to set your FXs 100% wet, so you can balance/blend your original track with your 'pure fx' (just reverb/delay in your case) track/signal.
If you want to listen your percs with effects you need to add signal to the sends you´ve created on them, and also check channel outputs so you´re sure your effected signals are coming out.

 

HEHE sorry for my wrighting. i want to rout the reverb to my audio channels. the revern will be on my return. so far i can do that but i dont want to hear my return channel. pleasee is this possible some how?

 

@davpat

is a bit confusing , obviously the language is not easy for you (sometimes for me is the same) *yes* ,
this is what i think you are asking
usually you route the audio channels to a reverb, not the way around, because the reverb needs the audio signals to get an output.
well maybe in the future they will create an "reverb Vsti" (forget it) my humor is not translatable,

but i think you want to hear the reverb on the audio channels\tracks separately, each track with the reverb effect and not having a separate aux\return channel for the control of the overall reverb effect. the easy way to do it (but not recomended, because you are wasting to many computer resources among other things. ) is too put\insert a separate reverb on each track, that way you only hear the reverb affecting that particular track, but try to not do it(obviously you can do whatever you want), thus controling the audio channels with the reverb effect on it.
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this is what you are asking, see below. but is not possible.

 

is it posible to do this? when i use the send and returns i hear my audio chanel and the return chanels i only want to hear the audio channel effected.

Sounds like you want to hear only the 'wet' bit of a reverb. Probably the easiest way to do this would be to use a reverb which lets you control wet+dry bits separately (like BREVERB)

i want to give each channel a bit of reverb and delay so ive got two returns set up with a delay on one an the reverb on the other.

If you only have one reverb effect and 15 sends to the reverb, what will be returned is the reverb of everything to the tracks, so every track has dry+reverbofeverything (which is probably not what you want). If you want individual reverb for individual tracks, it is simply just not possible to do this with only 1 reverb FX - how is it possible to separate the reverb of the individual instruments once everything's mushed in through the same reverb unit?

Wynaut just stick a reverb FX on every track (or the master) depending on DAW?

 

"Pre-fader send". Turn down source channel fader (not the send amount). Repeat for the other 14 channels (if you want to hear the all wet reverb of 15 sends).

Or you can adress all channels to a subgroup, send that subgroup to a reverb (with "pre fader" checked) and then turn the subgroup fader down.

 

IM USING ABLETON.yes maudio thats exactly what i want to do. my best case would be to put reverb and delay on the channels directly. but it would be easier
to put the on returns. reverb on return a and delay on return b and on each channel u want to effect use the send knobs, automate them in session view,
that would be ideal so thats what i wanted to do hear the dry signal with a bit o reverb on the individual channels.like if i was putting the reverb on each tracks seperatly.

right now when i put reverb on the return channel raise the send knob on my audio channel/track it sounds like im getting only the effected signal on the return and a mix between dry and wet on my audio channel that i raise the send knob. wich is probably correct thats what im seeing on youtube videos anyway.

what would be also ideal is to mute the return channel so i only hear the mix dry and wet thruu my audio channels.

 

Then just mute the send for dry.

In Live, you can route all your sends to an audio channel, so you can mute all sends at once by muting that channel (or you can record just the send output for fx).

Sadly, there is no "bypass all sends" knob within Live's channels, you only can turn sends down one by one and have to remember the values you dialed in.

 

i think you can if you press CNTRL + A and turn a send. does that make any scence?

 

With cntr-a you can control the return levels of the whole mix, not only one channel.

A simple bypass function per channel would be the solution to hear just that dry channel without sends in the mix (if I explained it right).



In this example, I want deactivate the three sends just for channel 3, not channel 2.

 

but i want to hear the wet and dry on the audio channels just like if i was inserting the reverb on the audio channels directly


so whats the best way a of giving a few channels some reverb. its amazing that you cant do a simple thing what i want to do.
mute the return track so i dont hear nothing

and when i mute it it stops sending effect to the audio channels

 

Please be more specific.

What do you mean by "mute it"?

 

i dont know if muting the return would be correct. but i mean i want to stop the reverb on my return coming out to the master.
i only want to hear a bit reverb plus the audio audio(percs hats drums synths)
all coming from the audio channels