Problem with Piano saturation

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  1. hugopaul

    hugopaul Newbie

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    Hello guys, so i'm making a song with only piano and strings, and if i listen to it with headphone or earphones it sounds alright, but if i listen to it through my computer or my phone, then the high notes of the piano saturate a lot and it sounds discusting.
    I can't find where the problem is, i'm not clipping anywhere all my volumes are correct.
    I've tried several different piano vst's (kontakt, omnisphere, ableton basic one) but the buzz remains when i get to these high notes.
    I've also tried with the piano completely naked, with no effects at all, but still, bad saturation. I'm getting it out at like 20 lufs, and not clipping.

    If anyone knows where this might come from it would be a great help.
    Have a good day !
     
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  3. fxhndav

    fxhndav Newbie

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    =edit; initially just glanced at ur post while I had a spare moment figuring it was something super typical my bad, just read in full!

    Do some research on the concept of "headroom" if I'm hearin ya' right
    But basically trace to the source of your piano aka a kontakt instance with said loaded library, and internally turn it down a heap volume wise.
    It can become as loud and present as it needs in context with the mix after the fact.

    Phones are notorious for inducing distortion even on the most big name albums in ways such as you described.
    Seeing as many listeners use mobile phone you could point out just how crucial headroom/proper mastering gainstaging is on this earth.
     
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  4. Smoove Grooves

    Smoove Grooves Audiosexual

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    Sorry, what?
    Gainstaging is observed during recording, and then during mixing when adding processing.

    Oh. And Welcome to AS! :)

    edit:
    Erm, this is a strange thing to tell him to do. It's his thread, eh?
     
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  5. joem

    joem Producer

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    yea with pianos dont saturate them best thing to do is grab a multibanded compressor mute the low and mid bands and sweep the hi end around till you get some resonance from the piano that will be the saturation turn the compressor down where that signal hts and your done.
    Basically compress the hi end a bit
     
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  6. Smoove Grooves

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    Not that saturation!
    Phone speaker saturation!
     
  7. joem

    joem Producer

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    yea still valid then to compress the hi end if hes getting clipping on his phone
     
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