you guys all refer to "voice correction" and a jugde a tool which was not made for voice correction based on your experience using it for voice correction. ^^

 

Melodyne is worth every penny imho

 

Just to complement what me and others have said. I barely use recorded audio but I watch Melodyne in-depth tutorials and reviews from time to time just for the techie pleasure of seeing the incredible things it can do. It's not like it's slow, it just does so many great things.
@taskforce mentioned it can be the ultimate remixing tool and he's right. You can very easily change a polyphonic track to another scale. You click twice and there you have it, from pentatonic to dorian, and you choose how rigid is the conversion. Unfuckinbelievable.

Studio One integration with Melodyne designed from scratch was and still is one of its main selling points. I think Sonible helped too, another cool company. I wonder how other DAWs recent integration compares. If someone has news on that, like for instance latest Cubase integration, I'd be interested to know.

I mentioned before zPlane as one of the very few companies that could be potential competition for Melodyne because they also have extremely good technical knowledge. Like cutting edge pitch-shift and time-stretch. I'm not so sure about the detection side but clearly they're working at it (deCoda was their last huge software in that department I think). They still have long ways to go anyway.

 

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I have only used it once to harmonise vocals. I had a chorus line where I thought it would be cool to add more singers, so I used melodyne to pitch down the vocal by a perfect fifth and add it to another track. I know there are other plugins that could do this, but melodyne was there so I used it

 

Have you heard the latest crop of singers ?
The weekend dude what a joke, you can actually hear the autotune squeals on there. That dude can't hit a note even if he tried it's all processed in the Studio and played back for live performances.

 

It's state of the art for sure. State of the fart... hummm something doesn't quite fit there...

 

Dunno what DAW you're using, but I can assure you, Digital Performer can do the exact same thing as Melodyne: detect audio and convert it to data that can then be manipulated on a piano roll-style grid for pitch and timing like moving around MIDI notes. It's been a feature since v7 (it's now on v10). The problem is, the algorithm isn't quite as sophisticated, so there's some artifacts and the results aren't quite as realistic (sometimes). It also can't separate notes in chords, so it's only effective on individual instruments playing single notes. I just assumed that, DP being at the bottom of the DAW totem pole, almost every DAW had that feature.

 

I watched it used in the studio on James Blunt's #1 album, and a Coldplay album.
James and Chris are both great vocalists.
Could you detect it?

Which is monophonic like Autotune. Not Melodyne.
This is what taskforce has been saying to you.

Autotune was used live for the first Spice Girls tour which my friend was the drummer for.
And they actually must have set it better than the most recent tour, because even Autotune wasn't detectable on that first tour!

 

This offers more value than that pos... lol
https://www.apple.com/us-hed/shop/b...-core-cpu-and-8-core-gpu-256gb?part=MGNR3LL/A

 

But why do you need a vocalist who can't single at all in the first place?

 

Not my vocalist, different clients send multitrack with crapy vocals, so i need to tune them and remove all kind of noise, clicks and shit

 

I justify it by getting the R2R version.

 

I guess you mean -RET version

 

Have a look at these tutorials and see what Melodyne can do for you:

https://www.celemony.com/en/news?tag=tutorials

Funny thing is that some ppl apparently not bother to get a little into things before they start asking questions they could easily find answers for (on the net)

just by being a little curious

 

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who the fack... just starts a thread as a random simpson character asking whether YOU need melodyne, and then you have the neck to say "just impress me with all your spare time to repeat shit about something that is already all over the internet, im too lazy to do the research here so just make it good and give me a shortcut & renewed reason to do this!"

How about no. how about YOU go and figure out what YOU need to complete the art that YOU want to put out in this world...

mommy, or any of us cant be holding your hand through it! wouldn't feel like an accomplishment then would it?....

Oh and while your at it, wash my car and tell me what you think are the nicest parts of it, you can write an essay, REALLY IMPRESS ME, and tell me what you think of the quality of paintwork, how sexy & slick it looks, ok?
Ask me whether I think it was worth the 40,000euro, ill tell you to mind your own business.
cheers

How can you justify such a limp, blind thread? Answer creatively & with passion, make it good! and then ill justify the price of meoldyne for u

 

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Hi. I think you posted in the wrong thread!?

 

While your attitude and what you said is absolutely justified and correct, the perspective you are looking at this is wrong my friend. Engineers do the job they are hired for, bands decide who sings or not. So an engineer's first job is (or should be anyway) to deliver perfect tracks ready for mixing. They don't decide who sings or who plays, they are there to fix the sht so to speak heheh.

Hmmm, you are talking Melodyne circa 2002. I am quite familiar with DP and every other major DAW platform. Just watch the Melodyne videos that will surely make you forget all about DP's autotune-like ability. Every DAW has a mono tuner of this type, VariPitch in Cubase for instance.
You seem to gracefully skipped my explanation about different algorithms and how they are applied. That's alright. This perhaps will be more clear to you: You are talking about mono pitch shifting and detection/correction and i am talking about polyphonic.
One is limited as a one string instrument like the Berimbau the other one is melodically unlimited as the Piano.
Here's a little history that will help:
Mono pitch shifting has been around since the 70s with delays and modulation. In the 80s the Eventide Ultra Harmonizer was the main tool used in studios and not just pitch shifting, but pitch correction started to be a thing albeit in its infancy. In the 90s the Antares Autotune and its derivatives became an industry standard. What all pitch detection/correction approaches had in common was that they could correct (shift) a monophonic signal that was tracked by a look ahead algorithm over time, but they couldn't do much with polyphonic material which is what most of the contemporary music is based on. Chords man. Pitch shifting chords could only be done using phase shift modulation on specific frequencies but this introduced so many artifacts in sound that engineers quickly abandoned it as a correction technique and wherever it's used, it is applied as a radical sound effect rather than a transparent correction procedure with no apparent audio artifacts.
Up to 2009 and the introduction of Melodyne DNA (a.k.a. the world's first and only polyphonic pitch detection/correction algorithm), even the Antares main engineers had declared that polyphonic pitch detection/correction is IMPOSSIBLE to implement. And so came Peter Neubacker with Celemony and made the impossible possible. For this alone Melodyne could be sold for thousands of euros as it is the only piece of code that can detect chords and as i said, separate dominant overtones & harmonics from second and third order etc etc. So just forget defending DP's and any other DAW's pitch manipulation tool for that matter, Melodyne is a different type of beast, decades ahead of the competition mate.
Cheers

 

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I hear you bro. The main thing with Neubacker's invention Melodyne DNA, is he studied and researched a very specific but fundamental part of the audio spectrum. Harmonics. His goal as he explained in the past in an SOS interview, was to create an algorithm that can correctly detect what you can see when zooming in a spectral editor's waveform, like let's say Izotope RX or Spectralayers. Because if anyone has used any of these great softies, you'd know that you can actually see everything that is in there audiowise, pictured in different colors and shapes. It's just very difficult to correctly control it. Hence the Melodyne DNA could very well be thought of as a kind of spectral polyphonic pitch detection and editing, only it offers a much more musical approach and interface/GUI than RX and the likes which are more suited to technical repairs/edits rather than musical ones.
Cheers mate

 

someone use cubase how melodyne is compare? i learn they add ARA now- price still worth compare to they internal working?

@taskforce infoz appear to be current- this is what i search- ty

 

Without getting into an argument (which was not my intent!), Melodyne being able to manipulate polyphonic notes (or single notes in a chord) is a fairly recent development -- DNA didn't show up until 2009 (v4). Until that point, it functioned in the same way that note manipulation exists in DP now, just in a better form. The point I've been trying to make among these posts is that, unless you need to manipulate chords/notes within a chord (something I stated in my first post here), you can do roughly the same job with your DAW, excepting for artifacts and possibly some precision. I own Autotune, DP and Melodyne 5 (as well as Waves Tune, iZotope Nectar, etc.), so I'm well aware of how they all work.