How Do You Organize Your VST Effects on Hard Drive and in DAW

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  1. Pure Energy

    Pure Energy Producer

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    How Do You Organize Your VST Effects on Hard Drive and in DAW

    I usually just install under Manufacture but Bundles have So many different types of effects I forget and lose track of EXample revebs delays Waves have many Slate has many then there are the standlalones
    and now with the current TSUNAMI im even more lost
     
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  3. TaxiDriver

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    I would kindly suggest to use something because you absolutely need it and NOT just because it exist..

    BTW, that's the secret behind many great producers ;)

    P.S. I am a Hypocrite
     
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  4. Stuck In The 80s

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    I noted with interest how Ableton 11 had come up with new broad categories for their library FX folder which I have adopted now as subfolders for my VST FX folder. However I have an additional folder for brands where it makes sense to put them all together (such as Eventide and KiloHearts)

    The new ableton categories are:
    Drive, Dynamics, EQ & Filters, Finishing, Performance, Pitch & Modulation, Time & Space.
     
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  5. shinbeth

    shinbeth Ultrasonic

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    Is there still only a maximum of 7 Collections colors? To me that was Ableton 10's biggest limitation, hope they listened and addressed this but I guess not.
     
  6. Haliax

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    I order mine something like this:

    Effects\Chorus\BrainWorx
    Effects\Chorus\D16
    ...
    Effects\EQ\BrainWorx
    ...
    Instruments\Bass\Rob Papen\
    Instruments\Guitar\ToonTrack
    Instruments\Synth\Roland
    ...
     
  7. twoheart

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    Sometimes I forget what some not so frequently used VSTs are used for (as I'm old, and names were always a problem for me :)).
    Especially those 123.dll numbered VSTs I have problems to memorize them, even though I reduced the VSTs to a minimum last year and got rid of all others I don't really use frequently
    (*I don't uninstall them but move the DLL to a directory outside the VST search paths on another drive).
    The fact that not all VST exist as VST2 or VST3 respectively makes it even more complicated. And if that wasn't enough the different DAWs handle VST differently.

    First thing I do is setting one search path for all VST2 and all VST3. If there are other directories I use symlink to link them to the standard path.
    For Ableton (10.x) VST2: I define folders like "Synth - Sampler - InstEmulation - Seq..." for instruments and "Dynamics - EQ - Reverb - Distortion - Modulation -Spatial ..." for fx.
    For Cubase (10.x) I use the same search path and nomenclature but there I can define my own groups of Intruments and FX inside the VST plugin manager.

    Maybe other people have no problems to memorize everything, but for me this helps massively.
    For testing purposes it's agood idea to move the different plugin DLLs in and out of the VST search path so you don't get lost in space. (see *)

    You guess right.
    But with all colors of the rainbow it would be quite hard to distinguish the colors. In Cubase you can have a load of colors but in the end I reduced them to e few again bcause it didn't help me to use 32 as they are so very similar.
     
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    yes!
     
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    my logic is, make a VST folder with an instrument folder and an effect folder inside, in each folder you make a folder dedicated to the installed instrument or effect, and don't install everything and anything! vst 3 are automatically installed in the dedicated folder, if you use Live you can put them in coloured preferences.
    that's it.
     
  10. badepapa

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    Sadly I have the worst organization of VST effects. I just dump everything in one place (both Instruments ad effects) with a thought that later I will organize things to make it look tidy but that time never comes. :unsure:
     
  11. Tob

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    Limit yourself is the key to be organized and productive.

    This...
     
  12. Ak3mi91

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    You can take a look at my setup if you want:

    [​IMG]

    Also, I agree with @TaxiDriver, you should limit yourself. Don't hoard everything. I personally have around 80 plug-ins in total.

    PS. I know that EQ and compression are technically "audio effects" as well (spectral and dynamic, respectively, If I'm not mistaken), but I prefer to keep them separate :)
     
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    https://imgur.com/a/vB5szUf

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  14. Ayahuasca

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    Not mine, but what im using as a template to organise my own

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  15. Ayahuasca

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    Agreed! It should be unlimited, im using Bitwig now and it lets you configure as many as you like
     
  16. Futurewine

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    on file explorer (win10), i prefer
    VST2:
    ./Program Files/VSTPlugins/{company}/vstname.dll
    VST3
    ./{company}/vstname.dll

    i skip x86 vst2, also skip x64 vst2 if vst3 exist, also skip aax..

    i use categorize features on daw (s1/reaper) just for quick find..

    on side note, what @TaxiDriver and @Tob highlight is true. I've stopped collecting plugins only keeps one that i find or learn by chance its best purpose.. like vss3 large warm hall for orchestral.. futzbox for claps.. something like that i organize mine :shalom:
     
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    For DAW I use Cakewalk it has custom plugin layout so you can made your own and save as preset for quickly switch between them.
    Show all plugins, show only your favorite, show only your most use in your Rock or EDM project, no problem.
     
  18. Olymoon

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    I create one folder per developer and install their plugins in.

    But using Reaper, I create my own categories and classify plugins in them. You can put the same plugin in more than one category.
     
  19. Exidus

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    That's mine from Reaper
    Name0==+=+=+=+INSERTS+=+=+=+=
    Name1=AMP/CABinet Emulation
    Name2=BITcrusher
    Name3=BUSs/MaSTer
    Name4=Channel Strip
    Name5=CHORus
    Name6=COMPressor
    Name7=COMPressor MB
    Name8=DELay
    Name9=DISTotion/SATuration
    Name10=Dynamic Processor
    Name11=EQ
    Name12=EXciter/MAXimizer
    Name13=FILTer
    Name14=FLanger
    Name15=FREQuency Shifter
    Name16=GAte/EXPander
    Name17=HARMonizer
    Name18=LIMiter
    Name19=LOOPer/SLYcer
    Name20=MODulation
    Name21=PHaser
    Name22=PITCH Shifter
    Name23=REVerb
    Name24=SAMPler (fx)
    Name25=STereo Field
    Name26=TRANsient
    Name27=VOCoder
    Name28==+=+=+=+EFFECTS+=+=+=+=
    Name29=Vocal Processing
    Name30=Drums Processing
    Name31=Bass Processing
    Name32=Guittar Processing
    Name33=Keys Processing
    Name34=Glitch FX
    Name35=Sequenced FX
    Name36=Multi/Special FX
    Name37==+=+=INSTRUMENTS=+=+=
    Name38=Drum Instruments
    Name39=Bass Instruments
    Name40=Guitar Instruments
    Name41=Orchestral Instruments
    Name42=Environmental/Scapes
    Name43=World/Ethnic
    Name44==+=+=SYNTHESIZERS=+=+=
    Name45=Virtual Analog
    Name46=Subtractive
    Name47=Additive
    Name48=FM/PM
    Name49=Physical Modeling
    Name50=Wavatable
    Name51=Granular
    Name52=Sampler
    Name53=Hybrid
    Name54=Other
    Name55=VA (x86)
    Name56==+=+=+EMULATIONS+=+=+=
    Name57=Modular
    Name58=Moog
    Name59=Korg
    Name60=Roland
    Name61=ARP
    Name62=Dave Smith
    Name63=Oberheim
    Name64=Misc
    Name65=All
    Name66==+=+=+=+=UTILS=+=+=+=+=
    Name67=Arp/Seq
    Name68=MIDI
    Name69=Host/ReWire
    Name70=Audio Analysis/Utility
    Name71=Restoration
    Name72=Binaural
    Name73=Speaker Simulation
    Name74=Airwindows
    Name75=Acqua
     
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  20. shinbeth

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    Still only a maximum of 7 Collections colors in Ableton 11? :/
     
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