Won't Break Down

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  1. fuad

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    New song finally done! took me a while this one..fresh progressive, hope you guys like it...comments more than welcome

    https://soundcloud.com/fuad-murad/wont-break-down-original-mix
     
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    Thanks for the comment bro! I'll definitely take that into consideration and do some tweaks then..I do tend to do that quite alot...because I like introducing new elements in the breaks so sometimes they end up being long..i guess maybe cuz this one is a more progressive chilling type track
     
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    nice suggestion...i actually have another guitar melody that I recorded that I could use too, maybe I'll throw that in somewhere :)
     
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    very clean mix and master man. You have the ear for dynamics and audio quality :). Maybe reduce the bass a little and bring it more towards the centre mid where the transient of the kick hits and you're good to go :)

    I like your simple sound though it's nice :)
     
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    Thanks man..i will look into reducing the bass as well...i did feel after I finished mastering it that the bass was a little overpowering..that's what compression does :)
     
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    yeah compression can be a bitch sometimes. I usually tend to stay away from compressing the bass and make a copy of all my low-end sounds, group them into a bass channel and then add a phase adjustment tool to bring it in the same field and in phase with the kick. Then it takes the compression from the kick and thickens the low end spectrum...route it all to a summing filter and the bass is full and thick *yes*
     
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    Would you like to elaborate on this technique? :wink:
     
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    yeah I group my low frequency stuff as well when I have more than one bass synth playing at the same time and need them to work together as a unit...in this track I only have one bass so it's pretty much a matter of getting it to play nice with the kick and then balancing it with the other stuff. Even phase adjustments are a matter of adjusting the attack time of the bass
     
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    What I usually like doing is routing all my submixes to a filter. A filter saves alot of headroom for your mix because depending on the way you write your filter, you can filter out certain frequencies and texture the sound in a certain way by making subtle adjustments. There is also a point in a filter and in it's resonance where there is a psychoacoustic perception of loudness. So it can make your whole entire track louder, while lowering the amount of headroom space dramatically.

    So let's just say your track is peaking at -3dbFS. If you sum up your track using a filter, it would sound louder than what it would usually sound at that level. But it depends on the way you handle your filter and every filter works differently and has different parameters as well as quality. It also lowers the amplitude of the whole signal, while still maintaining and maybe even increasing loudness. That's why I sum up everything to a filter as well as the summing compressor...

    Try it yourself... I actually posted a very short unmastered and unmixed sound in this THREAD that uses that technique. It's not the best example cuz I half assed the whole sound and the programming of the filter but hopefully you kinda get an idea :)

    It's a pretty cool technique that I use because I kind of want a certain texture for my sound that is provided by filters :)
     
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    Thanks for that, I'll give it a try it sounds interesting :wink: :wink:

    What is a good filter to start with?
     
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    I started exploring this technique using fabfilter volcano. I routed everything to a lowpass filter and added a high amount of resonance. I left the lowpass untouched though and only increased the resonance. Then I added a highpass filter and increased the resonance to the same level as the lowpass. Then I increased the highpass just a little bit so I can get some drive from the filter while taking out some frequencies.

    I was quite dissatisfied with fabfilters DSP quality though so I no longer use fabfilter and have since moved on to using Uhbik Runciter by u-he. The sound of that filter is much more powerful and clear while still pretty ok with the CPU :)
     
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    Here it is again with some tweaks and remastered, I think it sound much clearer with a little more dynamics retained and guitar more upfront, bass to the back and middle.
    By the way, this song is fully mixed and mastered using only Live's built plugins, just thought you guys should know :)

    http://soundcloud.com/fuad-murad/wont-break-down-original-mix
     
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    much better...especially the bassline. You have a solid mastering ability, you should be happy with that right now :)

    I think what you need to focus on more now is writing, composing and structuring your sounds. This also plays a heavy role in engineering too :)

    It's also one of my problems as well. I'm more proficient in the technical side...need to up my game in writing... :sad:
     
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    needs more polka...
     
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