r2r teaches MAAT about softdev and calls out Mr.Keilwerth

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  1. The Pirate

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    Vro! You have some kind of valid points but in reality the"worst case scenario" you are describing can be easily prevented. All the party supplying the license needs to do is change the personal info that is found in the account. That simple. If there are other licenses on that account, they can be transferred elsewhere. On top of that, in this site there is no one person that can say that they supply us with a license and had some type of issues. I personally have been supplied with licenses for several vsts including Sylenth, Ableton, FL Studio, etc. Those licenses have been shared among some of us to work on it, and you have never heard of ONE member complaining that he was screwed. Ask @mono and he will confirm what I just said.

    Things are checked and compared to avoid that. However, if you do as I said above how can it backfire? Your concern is justified but I hope that it is not taken as deterrent to those that want to share.

    Finally, R2R Encryptor The Suppliers Tools v1.0.0-R2R is a way to supply to r2r. another is by contacting releasers like Horsemen and Decibelle.

    Remember, sharing is caring.

    Edit: Signed by Barak Obama
     
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  2. OraMorph

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    providing a license is a first and last name affair lol. hardly identify fraud warning:excl:
    and R2R greatly respect people who chip in when there is a world full of leeches so youll be the last person they want to steal from.

    the original developer isn't storing your card details:excl:, and with GDPR there should be nothing sensitive on file about you in their possession at all without your express knowledge

    THAT IS ASSUMING the details are actually worth anything anyway
     
  3. Xupito

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    This is very cool. Although it kept me thinking and I don't recall ever R2R saying a protection was hard to crack. Lucky them!! :rofl:
     
  4. fiction

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    Many protections are hard to crack, they just don't make a big deal out if it.
    They are very knowledgable, they do have a lot of experience with advanced debugging and encryption algorithms and they have the guts to persist.
     
  5. aeroflot

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    well I think if Someone supplies R2R the serial would be protected AINT IT ? reading this topic I feel I would be much more trustful Toward R2R than the Legit company to protect my ass .... Am I wrong ?
     
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  6. barnaby4

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    I was joking but since you took it serious it would be logical that the people that actually make a profit from posting releases spend some of the money they earn from other people's work to supply teams with new stuff.

    Why would average users who make no profit supply, ridiculous.
     
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    Since you are serious, let me tell you what I think is ridiculous. What is ridiculous is to think that you deserve everything and that you should not have to do anything in return. I know that you are not alone in this, however, if everyone were to think like you, we would have NOTHING to try. More explicitly, we wouldn't have jack shit, unless we paid for it.

    Edit: I want to add that I have always been against making money with releases in any way or form. With that said, how much do you think those people you referred to make with a release? More importantly, do you think that the money that they make is enough to offset the cost of time, and resources spent uploading these releases?
     
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  8. Xupito

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    So did H2O and AIR with bigger releases and they recognized it. And without complaints when other groups learnt from their work.
     
  9. dkny

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    Yes, what's the motivation to do *anything* other than profit? :facepalm:

    Sometimes it's just good to help others if you can, especially as usually in these cases there is some returned benefit.

    But if you can't see past $$$ then you're probably not going to understand any of my words, so... :crazy:
     
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  10. barnaby4

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    Enough to live very comfortably in an eastern european country.

    There will always be things to "try". There is good money to be made in this field otherwise people wouldn't keep doing it for years/decades. Even the small guys posting mirrors under every single release make ok money I'm sure. You think they're posting mirrors "for the good of the community" every single day over and over for years? It's a mind numbing boring job that they're obviously doing ONLY for money.

    I make around 1000 USD a month by casually botting in world of warcraft and selling the virtual gold for real life money. If i was serious about it I could make probably 2-3k a month which is insane money for an eastern euro country which I think most of the release dudes and mirror uploaders are from. I'm sure there's a lot more money to be made in this field than my casual WoW money though.
     
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    3rd time ? First it was Serial protected. Then it was cracked and they added Wibu. That's one change? no?

    That might be a bitter pill for people who bought a wibu dongle :)
     
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    There was a post on the Facebook group saying Avenger had been cracked. It got taken down quite fast so Vengeance are obviously aware of it.

    Considering that Vengeance seem to have fairly close ties with Refx I don't know why they simply cannot use the Refx cloud app which is really easy to use and needs no dongle or third party protection like WIBU.
     
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    that should be reposted at AZ from time to time, maybe people dont have it anymore... just saying
     
  14. Mykal

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    What he said! Why people think that they deserve a damn thing is beyond me. Kinda crazy that certain people think that stuff just shows up out of nowhere, Not so at all.Yeah, sure demo's get cracked but with out anyone supplying that is all the people are going to get. Fuck what a Group can crack, crack open that wallet and give back
     
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    i couldnt agree more but you know the story repeats it self every now and then forever, i really think that i we give these kind of persons attention we loose focus on what could be an objective, if there is any, we as a comunity should either ignore or ban these kind of requests along with the one that asks for stuff, we are speaking with walls, not resonable / wise people, its useless to refrain the same point over and over

    in anyway, i really think this discussion should be kept private somewhere, with trusted members, we only fuel the hate of those that make requests and thy will go on and add more dumb questions
     
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    wrong they did bash
    (........,r2r)hard


    and vr did start bitchin or better making the cool bypasser lol -bout keygen which is total dumb...
    r2r just pointing out whats wrong...they teach...but i guess its not hippsterish enough for you :cheers:
    when a team would ask question in nfo of a rls of their own , r2r would answer in nfo...you can bet
    i cant remember which rls but they stated man hours on 1 protection scheme what ever , which was very very very high

    but i guess from point off knowledge in the meantime all is easy for them cause they kno every protection schemes truly in and out on this planet
     
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    peace out
     
  18. Xupito

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    I'll only reply this because I was talking of biggest groups in the first place. Nothing is black or white. I agree with some R2R complaints. H2O and AIR had a couple at most.

    But R2R designed a timeline (in that famous .nfo) which basically says: everything was good on the scene but since we became the bosses everything sucks.
    That H2O or AIR didn't make ever nothing remotely similar is a fact.

    PS. I'm not gonna answer your possible reply
     
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  19. lukehh

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    Radium also gave Steinberg Developers lessons in programming when they cracked Steinberg Wavelab about 21years ago! And they also sent T-shirt wih "We love RADIUM" to them. :rofl:
     
  20. nunziaforum

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    please don't say absurd things! if R2R receives your License, as a sign of Collaboration, it will use it to reverse the current codes, unfortunately highly Encrypted, which allow you to give access to the program itself, and perhaps generate new keys, but be careful! that only and exclusively concern the Activation Code, no license will have to do with personal data, such as Card, or other data ... this has absolutely nothing to do with the "Reverse Engineer" all of this, because only thanks to a Legal license, it will be possible to get in touch with the Encrypted program Code! that's why outside of the license key of the program, you won't need anything else ... nor will you be able to get in touch with any type of personal data, since each company has its own database, in connection with the Sella data banks , and Card Pay pal and other Personal data end up right there ... therefore impossible to make contact ... and then sorry So much .. who makes these thoughts .. is not a true Confident member, neither of AudioSex, nor of Sister AudioZ ... those who love the Community live there with confidence ..
     
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