r2r teaches MAAT about softdev and calls out Mr.Keilwerth

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  1. The Pirate

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    In case you were so excited installing MAAT plugins, that you forgot to read the NFO, here it is. This is a must read for all of us.

    MAAT.thEQorange.v2.0.4.Incl.Emulator.READ.NFO


    SUPPLiER : TEAM R2R | DATE : 2020.04.23
    CRACKER : TEAM R2R | NUMBER : R2R-8959
    PACKAGER : TEAM R2R | TYPE : EMULATOR
    | DiSK : 02 x 10MB

    PLATFORM : WiN32/64 - VST/VST3/AAX
    LANGUAGE : ENGLiSH
    PROTECTiON : NALPEiRON3/ZENTiTLE


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    After our attack to WIBU on January 2020, MAAT dropped WIBU and they went to
    Nalpeiron / Zentitle licensing system. While the protection of Nalpeiron is
    not so hard, it is much more cpu friendly than WIBU and no specific services
    or drivers are required.

    Funny excuse for selling worthless WIBU dongle from developer :
    "even though we don't use them these days, our CodeMeter CmStick dongles are
    still the best way to license any other Wibu-protected products you may own.
    They're portable, plus incredibly small and tough."
    This time we emulated Nalpeiron / Zentitle in DLL level. AAX works in legit
    ProTools of course :)

    Technically, cracking Nalpeiron is not difficult and you can crack like
    other normal application. However, MAAT / Nalpeiron crashes in multi instance
    processing when it is patched badly. Our emulation is carefully done to avoid
    those extra problems!

    While we are reversing the protection, we found a bug causing crash.

    1. Run Host A and load plugin X.
    2. Run Host B and load plugin X.
    3. Unload plugin X in Host A.
    4. Unload plugin X in Host B -> CRASH!

    Do not load plugins in multi app at same time.
    (Loading multi instance in single audio host is OK).

    To developer for the fix crash issue:
    You are using the return value of NalpLibOpen() to count the number of
    instance. It works in one single process but does not in multiple process.
    You are better to add suffix to the name of license log file (based on time
    or value of GetTickCount) and problem should be gone.

    Response to some conspiracy theory about WIBU:

    * We already unpacked and emulated Avenger v1.5.5 (WIBU protected).
    * Protecion is AxProtector, IxProtector, CoreAPI. nothing new after doing
    Antares and MAAT products.
    * CoreAPI is used for encrypting presets and expansion. This is already
    emulated for Antares products, but every single expansion needs different
    keys (legit license) for the emulation.
    * You can't ask R2R to decrypt expansion unless you give the license to us.
    * If you save presets in WIBU protected Avenger, preset will be encrypted
    WIBU. If Mr.Keilwerth drops WIBU, your saved presets cannot be loaded
    in non-WIBU version. We warned!
    * ATM We don't have plan to release unless we have all expansions with lic.
    (It's not KONTAKT lib which does not need legit license for the crypto!)

    * We already emulated Reason. CoreAPI only. No packer is used.
    * Every single RackExtension needs legit license.
    * We saw crack of Reason somewhere but it does not work. Project made by
    legit Reason cannot be loaded in that cracked version due to the lack of
    decryption emulation.
    * ATM We don't have plan to release unless we have all extensions with lic.

    We don't think you will be satisfied if we release Avenger with few
    expansions, or if we release Reason with few extensions.

    The reason why we expose this information is, Mr.Keilwerth really takes
    care about the protection. We want to know how he thinks in this situation.

    [1] If only few expasions and Avenger will be cracked, I don't care!
    [2] If R2R does not release unless they get all expansions, Avenger is safe!
    [3] I will change the protection again! (3rd time)
    [4] I gave up and stick to WIBU.
    [5] R2R tells lie. AxProtector + IxProtector + CoreAPI is secure!
    (If he really think so, he should read our NFO of Antares and MAAT and
    check if his "protection" is stronger than them = NO)

    Let's see the reaction from him, and the reaction from the legit users for
    his decision. Then, we will discuss if we need to change our mind.
     
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    Wow ... "reason r2r 11" would be nice also released only with the VST3 extensions ..for use 'use by our daw .. great ... I would say great r2r ..:winker:
     
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    I can say I was one of those conspiracy theorists about reason. Interesting fact they put:

    * We already emulated Reason. CoreAPI only. No packer is used.
    * Every single RackExtension needs legit license.
     
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    Interesting stuff.
     
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    r2r is on fire,only if they said the same for ilok 2,3,4,10 lol:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
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    [​IMG]

    Avenger users are gonna have to buy a new dongle. Friendship ended with WIBU.
     
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    these collaborations is that they are good for a community :wink:
     
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    Me encanta leer estos textos, and PA?
     
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    Members of the community need to do their part and help supply Team R2R the necessary goods.
     
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    I just wonder how much time it takes to crack this shit, because I still remember one of those AiR cubase nfos where they said it took them few thousands of manhours? or something like that lol

    edit: I wasn't wrong "it took us almost 4000 man hours to emulate the little beast"
     
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    Sunny will supply.
     
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    Also, let me be clear. I'm not saying that members should go out and buy things with the explicit purpose of sending to R2R to be cracked, although that would be lovely, it's not very feasible. What I'm saying is that members who already own what R2R is seeking, should do right by the community and contribute.
     
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    That kind of thinking is unproductive and will get us nowhere. It's called the bystander effect. Failing to offer help because you think there will always be someone else there to do it.

    See:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect
     
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    What kind of guarantee do these teams give you that your personal information is secure? There's two issues here, the first and obvious one is that by providing the license, you are giving them and the middlemen your own personal information to abuse at will or to be stolen from by hackers or other third parties. Second though, even if the teams do everything right, the license/software/samples might contain some kind of cleverly coded watermark or other hardcoded information.
     
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    And what is r2r seeking, is there an list or something?
     
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    It's written inside the NFO:

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    We already emulated Reason. CoreAPI only. No packer is used.
    * Every single RackExtension needs legit license. ...
    * ATM We don't have plan to release unless we have all extensions with lic.



    ...* We already unpacked and emulated Avenger v1.5.5 (WIBU protected)....
    * ATM We don't have plan to release unless we have all extensions with lic.
    We don't think you will be satisfied if we release Avenger with few
     
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    yeah but requesting is easy i kno...there are ways.there are tools..there are trusted ppl
    how do you think all the other stuff ended up released...the over 50.000 money in software released
     
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    Great stuff, there are a lot of expansion copies already sold, and those people get in return ALL of the expansions when R2R release the full collection (along with everything else they crack almost year-round)
     
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